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Template:Indian cinema under construction edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 08:46, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Largely unused under construction for stubs template. It seems like the only project-specific template at Category:Under-construction templates. Too large for a stub notice and I think it's be preferable to use the main under construction template rather than project-specific ones. Ricky81682 (talk) 11:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sub-disciplines of computing edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Primefac (talk) 16:22, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be largely original research, with many questionable or even nonsensical categorizations and inclusions. (How is "Dictionary" a subdiscipline of computing? In what universe is NLP a kind of electrical engineering?) The template is also far too large to be reasonably useful as a navbox. Psychonaut (talk) 08:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Psychonaut, you should read Computer engineering. Phamnhatkhanh (talk) 09:10, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You may assume that I've read all the articles I linked to. Have you read our guidelines on navigation templates and the related essays? If so, can you explain how this one meets the criteria and adds value to the articles you've inserted it into? Psychonaut (talk) 09:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Psychonaut, you should refer to this Sub-disciplines. I just listed out, you should read through. Phamnhatkhanh (talk) 09:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Psychonaut, Computer engineering and Electrical engineering is also similarities close together. Phamnhatkhanh (talk) 09:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. It is indeed a good-faith effort, one that I'd hate to delete. But it is original research nonetheless. Such a categorization needs to be backed up by sources. For example, who says Data mining is a discipline of computer science and not software engineering? Same for parallel computing. The original research becomes problematic when it starts contradicting another original research, i.e. Outline of computer science. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 07:03, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I too agree this is good-faith original research that is not particularly useful. 15.203.233.84 (talk) 17:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've added Citing sources. Phamnhatkhanh (talk) 01:54, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Codename Lisa, you should read these topics and think about those content carefully. They are also similarities close together, nothing is absolute. Phamnhatkhanh (talk) 06:38, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
For example, Network security is sub-disciplines of Computer network, Computer network is sub-disciplines of Computing. Phamnhatkhanh (talk) 07:33, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That is one way to looking at things (one which I am sure you are not alone in), however, there are other ways to look at things, e.g., according to LCSH: Computer networks--Security measures is within Computer security which is within Data protection and Security systems (notice Computer networks is not in that hierarchy). The point is there are many ways to look at things (why isn't Network security a part of Computer security and why is that not a top-level group of this navbox?) and you have no authoritative source for your associations (as useful as they might be). You would be better off keeping navboxes small unless there are well documented associations that only work one way. There is nothing wrong with having Network security have multiple navboxes—perhaps one for Computer security related topics and one for Computer networking related topics. 15.203.233.80 (talk) 01:29, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: The content is interesting but I do not really see it as encyclopedic or useful for navigation (too large and the original research promotes/conflates potentially unnotable relationships that are unsubstantiated with references within the linked articles). Uzume (talk) 16:23, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Monthly clean-up category/Messages/Use mdy dates edit

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The result of the discussion was relist to Dec 9. Primefac (talk) 16:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These templates are not needed anymore, due to Fram's changes to the dmy, mdy, and English variants categories. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep These categories should have the {{Monthly maintenance category}} template in them which utilizes these and allows the distinction between clean-up and maintenance categories. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:26, 8 December 2015 (UTC).[reply]
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