Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 May 21
May 21 edit
Template:Banding edit
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Banding (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused. Frietjes (talk) 21:44, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Location map UK Scotland edit
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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Location map UK Scotland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Scotland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Location map UK Scotland with Template:Location map Scotland.
confusing to have two different versions, with the only difference being that the maps are flipped. we should simply move {{Location map Scotland}} over {{Location map UK Scotland}}, keeping the history of {{Location map Scotland}} but using the map ordering of {{Location map UK Scotland}}. although the {{Location map Scotland}} is older, it is broken since {{Location map|Scotland|relief=yes}} returns the opposite as what is expected. Frietjes (talk) 20:07, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Full support. See also Template talk:Location map Scotland for more information. Michael! (talk) 20:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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Relief location maps edit
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:34, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Location map Africa relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Alaska relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Albania relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Algeria relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Andorra relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Angola relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Antarctica relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Argentina relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Australia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Austria relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Austria topo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Bavaria relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Belarus relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Bolivia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Brazil relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Bulgaria relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Burma relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map California relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Canada relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Central African Republic relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Chile relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map China relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map China Northern Plain relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Colombia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Costa Rica relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Cyprus relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Dominican Republic relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Ecuador relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Eastern Europe relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Eastern Europe relief3 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Egypt relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Eritrea relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Ethiopia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Finland relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map France relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map France Corsica relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map France Mayotte relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Gabon relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Germany relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Germany Baden-Württemberg relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Germany Bavaria relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Germany North Rhine-Westphalia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Germany Saxony-Anhalt relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Grenada relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Guatemala relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Haiti relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Honduras relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Hungary relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Iceland relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map India relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Iran relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Israel relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Jamaica relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Kenya relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Latvia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Liberia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Libya relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Lithuania relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Macedonia relief location map-light (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Madagascar relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Mauritius relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Mexico relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Namibia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Nepal relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map New Zealand relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Nigeria relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Norway relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Panama relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Republic of Macedonia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Réunion relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Russia relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Scotland relief 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Slovakia relief/sandbox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map South Africa relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map South Africa Western Cape relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Sri Lanka relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Tanzania relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Texas relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Tonga relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Turkey relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Ukraine relief borderless (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map USA Alaska relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map USA California relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map USA Texas relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Wales relief (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Albania relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Algeria relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Andorra relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Angola relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Argentina relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Australia relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Austria relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Belarus relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Colombia relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Cyprus relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Ecuador relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Eastern Europe relief3/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Egypt relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Eritrea relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Ethiopia relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Finland relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map France relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Germany Baden-Württemberg relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Kenya relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Libya relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Mexico relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Panama relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Ukraine relief borderless/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map USA California relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Location map Wales relief/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Category:Location relief map by country templates (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Reasons to delete these templates:
- precedents: Italy relief and South Tyrol relief
- #2. "The template is redundant to a better-designed template"
- #3. "The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used".
Besides, all relief location maps can be loaded by the default location map template, using the relief=1 parameter. For instance:
  Template:Location map Africa with |relief=1 |
- Michael! (talk) 18:59, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Note that "Template:Location map Eastern Europe relief3" does not exist as a "default" location map (there is no corresponding "Location map Eastern Europe" without relief) and cannot be invoked as such with the "relief=1" parameter. W. B. Wilson (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right. I should have nominated Template:Location map Eastern Europe relief3 separately, because it is a special case. It's completely unsuitable as a location map and should not have been created in the first place, because the geographic boundaries are completely wrong: it certainly doesn't cover the area between 0°N, 100°E and 100°S, 0°W. Michael! (talk) 19:51, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Note that "Template:Location map Eastern Europe relief3" does not exist as a "default" location map (there is no corresponding "Location map Eastern Europe" without relief) and cannot be invoked as such with the "relief=1" parameter. W. B. Wilson (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Kiosk (band) edit
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Kiosk (band) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Useless template. All links on the template are redirects to the main article. Farhikht (talk) 15:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Persian traditional music edit
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The result of the discussion was relisted on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 May 29. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:52, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Persian traditional music (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Template:Persian Pop Music edit
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The result of the discussion was relisted on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 May 29. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:52, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Persian Pop Music (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Template:DS/Wii key press edit
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The result of the discussion was relisted on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 May 29. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:52, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Information page edit
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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
An oft-misused template. The wording of it seems to imply that a page's content has wide acceptance, while in fact I have witnessed it being put on what should be more appropriately called essays. No one seems to monitor its use, in contrast to {{policy}}, for which as I remember, a bot sends notifications to WP:VPPOL in case it gets added anywhere.
I would rather see this one deprecated; many uses can be replaced by {{essay}} or {{Wikipedia how to}}. Some pages, however, like WP:Lua do not quite seem to fit either, so perhaps the template itself may be retained (and reworded) for cases like these. Since this is Templates for discussion, I would like to know your thoughts. Keφr 06:03, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Just because some people improperly use it doesn't mean there is a problem with the template. For example, I think it is being used properly at WP:VOA and WP:Rules for Fools. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 01:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep and remove from places where it was added without consensus per normal editing procedures. Adding an automated or semi-automated notification system as to when it is placed might be helpful, though. VQuakr (talk) 03:24, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep remove from places where it was placed without consensus being established. This is the same problem enocuntered with the policy and guideline boxes. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 08:12, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- I came here from Wikipedia:Ticker symbols in article leads. I can't see a good reason to remove this template from pages like that. --MZMcBride (talk) 14:48, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep You don't delete often misued templates. You take them down if necessary. I dream of horses (T) @ 05:30, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Sigh. Deal with the pages/people that are misusing it then. This is a useful template. (Came here from WP:Wikidata!) Killiondude (talk) 06:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Remove from page if improperly applied. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:14, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep (and enable notifications for pages tagged using it). Some re-wording wouldn't hurt, though. It's hard to explain the nuanced space that information pages occupy within our spectrum of policies, guidelines, and essays (and help pages, supplemental essays, blah blah blah), but I don't think the current wording captures those nuances the best way possible. Essentially: It's not something you should be whipping out in a content dispute as evidence of consensus for what you think, but it's also more agreed-upon than some random essay, and you could probably learn a thing or two by reading it if you're not already familar with the topic at hand. Very often, they consist mostly of technical or procedural notes, with only a few lines per page of "but you really shouldn't do such-and-such". I think it's also important to note that sometimes these pages represent more of an ad hoc consensus than a formal one borne of endless RFCs and edit wars. Basically, I love information pages, but I'm not sure this template really explains them that well. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 20:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep You don't close the highway because a couple of people are speeding. Just because a few people may misuse the template does not mean it isn't doing its job, so it shouldn't be deleted. If there's an issue with it being misused all over the place, perhaps rewording instead? Crashdoom Talk 00:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep and use it correctly. For example, I was linked here from WP:42 where it was properly used and beneficial to the page. ThemFromSpace 22:59, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep I was also thinking of WP:42 when I came here from another page. This template fills an important niche. Miniapolis 02:40, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep and WP:SNOW-close. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 18:55, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's worth noting that Kephir's original point was as much about wording as it was about a binary keep/delete decision, and only a few commenters have actually addressed this point. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 18:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep If someone can find a problem with how it's used, they should start a discussion to fix the problem rather than require people to take time to participate in an unnecessary TfD. Johnuniq (talk) 00:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox UST college edit
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
redundant to {{infobox college}}. Frietjes (talk) 00:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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