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Template:Cite-Hammond edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:03, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cite-Hammond (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and very explicit. It is better to enter the reference directly to the page than having templates for them. Magioladitis (talk) 22:17, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Susan Collins (artist) edit

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The result of the discussion was Template does not exist. If the template linked contains a typo, feel free to correct the typo and un-close this discussion. AnomieBOT⚡ 20:11, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Susan Collins (artist) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

As the article is entirely a copyvio, there is nothing worth saving here. We can restart from scratch if anyone finds that the person is notable. This is also Sven Manguard 19:21, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox kart racer edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:04, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox kart racer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and redundant to {{infobox racing driver}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:37, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Volleyball league edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:04, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Volleyball league (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused template documentation for a non-existing template. Frietjes (talk) 18:34, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox TransLink (SEQ) railway station edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:06, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox TransLink (SEQ) railway station (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and better to just merge any necessary fields with {{infobox station}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:33, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unused, redundant and much of the information to be stuffed into this infobox should be described by a paragraph of prose within the body of the article. There would be very little left to write about. The Template {{TransLink (SEQ) railway platform}} may be related in some way and is also unused. Secondarywaltz (talk) 05:48, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox NFL Season edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:07, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox NFL Season (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and broken. Frietjes (talk) 18:31, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox IFL player edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:07, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox IFL player (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused cut-and-paste fork of {{Infobox NFL player}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:30, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox College softball team edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:08, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox College softball team (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and redundant to {{infobox baseball team}} or {{infobox sports team}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Born this way ball edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:10, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Born this way ball (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 18:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Beyblade team edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:11, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Beyblade team (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Category:Beyblade teams (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused fictional team infobox. Frietjes (talk) 18:17, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Arabic letter edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:12, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Arabic letter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, letter articles are using {{Phoenician glyph}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox KHL team season edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:12, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox KHL team season (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:KHLTeamSeason (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2012–13 HC Slovan Bratislava season (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused editing tests. Frietjes (talk) 18:13, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Dilbert book edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Dilbert book (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and redundant to {{infobox book}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:13, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Mesopostamian deity edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:14, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Mesopostamian deity (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 18:00, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox New wave edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:18, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox New wave (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:55, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox SEAG sport edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:18, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox SEAG sport (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Athens Metro L2 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete, after merging the history. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:37, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Athens Metro L2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to infobox in article, and OASA Metro Line 2 map Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

history merge with the map template. Frietjes (talk) 17:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Athens Metro L3 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete, after merging the history. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:37, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Athens Metro L3 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to infobox in relevant article and - {{OASA Metro Line 3 map}} Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:51, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

history merge with the map template. Frietjes (talk) 17:57, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox manmade hybrid edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:46, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox manmade hybrid (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 17:51, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox/Separator edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:46, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox/Separator (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused template from another WP, redundant to the more modern {{infobox}}. Frietjes (talk) 17:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:3O edit

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The result of the discussion was delete, per Wikipedia_talk:Third_opinion#Discontinue_use_of_3O_tag. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:48, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:3O (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template was in support of the Third Opinion Project. See discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Third_opinion#Discontinue_use_of_3O_tag. regarding removal. All references to use of the template have been removed from the project page. TransporterMan (TALK) 14:50, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Convert to bot template per suggestion there (ask at WP:BOTREQ). It would be good to have an automated listing. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 07:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As a very frequent contributor to the Third Opinion Project, I would note that listings are frequently malformed at the time they're first listed, or even point to the wrong place altogether, either of which would give a bot the wrong input to place the tag; moreover, the mere existence of the tag has in the past caused editors to find it through searching help and post it in the belief that it would list the article at the project despite its very clear instructions that that's not enough. Once again, while the tag may be marginally helpful, the hassle it causes outweighs the benefit and, while a bot might ease the hassles a bit, the devil is going to be in the details of how it is implemented. It's best just gone. (And I would note that two out of the three most frequent contributors to the 3O project, Athaenara and myself, voted to delete, not to bot, which is not to say that either of us has more authority or right to have it deleted, only that we have some considerable experience with its use.) Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox sportsperson biography edit

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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:55, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox sportsperson biography (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to (fork of?) {{Infobox sportsperson}}. Used on fewer than 50 articles Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Is the only templete that allows you to return the count of the medals. Especially useful for swimmers and fencers. Should be noted in the project to apply to more biographies of the current 50. --Kasper2006 (talk) 12:20, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Most of the person infoboxes support standard param names for birth/death dates. This template fork goes off in it's own direction with the paramter names & doesn't fit in with the other infoboxes. It's could be chnaged to match the others but doesn't off much benefit over other options already available. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:17, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also, there are specific infobxes already for swimmers & fencers. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:19, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but what do you prefer?
What I mean is that you need a summary of the medals in the infobox. --Kasper2006 (talk) 16:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
so, why don't you think the templates should be merged? Frietjes (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, merge is perfect. ;) --Kasper2006 (talk) 18:03, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've created a template called {{MedalSum}} which can be used against the medaltemplates param. See example below. I still need to write the documentation for this new template though. -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:00, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
{{Infobox swimmer
| name           = Michael Phelps
| nationality    = {{USA}}
| show-medals    = yes
| medaltemplates = 
{{MedalSum|[[Summer Olympics]]|18|2|2}}
{{MedalSum|[[Swimming at the World Aquatics Championships|World Championships (LC)]]|26|6|1}}
{{MedalSum|[[FINA World Swimming Championships (25 m)|World Championships (SC)]]|1|0|0}}
{{MedalSum|[[Pan Pacific Swimming Championships|Pan Pacific Championships]]|13|3|0}}
}}
Ok we can use this also in {{Infobox sportsperson}}, but it don't work very well if we want show also medal's list:
{{Infobox sportsperson
| name           = Michael Phelps
| nationality    = {{USA}}
| show-medals    = yes
| medaltemplates = 
{{MedalSum|[[Summer Olympics]]|18|2|2}}
{{MedalSum|[[Swimming at the World Aquatics Championships|World Championships (LC)]]|26|6|1}}
{{MedalSum|[[FINA World Swimming Championships (25 m)|World Championships (SC)]]|1|0|0}}
{{MedalSum|[[Pan Pacific Swimming Championships|Pan Pacific Championships]]|13|3|0}}
{{MedalCompetition|[[Olympic Games]]}}
{{MedalGold|[[2004 Summer Olympics|2004 Athens]]|[[Swimming at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metre butterfly|100 m butterfly]]}}
{{MedalCompetition|[[Pan Pacific Swimming Championships|Pan Pacific Championships]]}}
{{MedalGold| [[2002 Pan Pacific Swimming Championships|2002 Yokohama]] | 200 m medley}}
}}
--Kasper2006 (talk) 13:11, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've created {{MedalSplit}} to allow both types to work togeter. -- WOSlinker (talk) 13:36, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect. ;-) --Kasper2006 (talk) 14:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
{{Infobox sportsperson
| name           = Michael Phelps
| nationality    = {{USA}}
| show-medals    = yes
| medaltemplates = 
{{MedalSum|[[Summer Olympics]]|18|2|2}}
{{MedalSum|[[Swimming at the World Aquatics Championships|World Championships (LC)]]|26|6|1}}
{{MedalSum|[[FINA World Swimming Championships (25 m)|World Championships (SC)]]|1|0|0}}
{{MedalSum|[[Pan Pacific Swimming Championships|Pan Pacific Championships]]|13|3|0}}
{{MedalSplit}}
{{MedalCompetition|[[Olympic Games]]}}
{{MedalGold|[[2004 Summer Olympics|2004 Athens]]|[[Swimming at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metre butterfly|100 m butterfly]]}}
{{MedalCompetition|[[Pan Pacific Swimming Championships|Pan Pacific Championships]]}}
{{MedalGold| [[2002 Pan Pacific Swimming Championships|2002 Yokohama]] | 200 m medley}}
}}
Unfortunately, the {{MedalSum}} template fails wp:accessibility since the placement is conveyed by colour without any table headings. To fix the issue, I created {{MedalCount}}, which has table headings, and does not require {{MedalSplit}}. Frietjes (talk) 20:39, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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