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Template:Donate edit

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The result of the discussion was delete DonateWP and no consensus for Donate. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:33, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Donate (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:DonateWP (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Long since replaced by other donation advertising. The few existing transclusions could be subst'd. WOSlinker (talk) 23:26, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe redirecting to the new template is a better idea? Bulwersator (talk) 08:50, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've also added DonateWP whioch is unused. -- WOSlinker (talk) 11:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
{{DonateWP}} can be deleted as it is unused, but {{Donate}} still has uses and should be kept: old though it is, it still works, so I don't see the need to delete it. Robofish (talk) 23:25, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Futurama character edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 05:40, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Futurama character (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

redundant to {{infobox character}}. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 21:14, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged under T3 Bulwersator (talk) 05:59, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:38, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant and unused now that its uses have been replaced by the noted alternative. DMacks (talk) 08:23, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Athletics national champions edit

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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 05:42, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Athletics national champions (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Almost all of the pages that this links to are red links and the template itself provides no infomation. I do not, therefore, see the use of it and I think that it should be deleted. Oddbodz (talk) 21:00, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I see this more as a work in progress than a useless template (1 in 5 links are blue). The notability of the lists have not been challenged and I think this kind of template is the most logical, user-friendly way of linking them. Saying that, I don't think any specific editor personally has their sights on creating the missing articles in the short term. SFB 22:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Navboxes should never be "work in progress". They are there to help readers navigate between disparate articles, not because every subject needs a navbox. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did you mean poorly connected when you said "disparate"? Navigation boxes are certainly not meant to connect disparate subjects. I think works in progress can be acceptable when they are the most user-friendly method for a reasonable body of work (the only alternative here would be 11 articles in the "see also" section). SFB 16:36, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

keep, has over a dozen blue links, is useful for navigation. Frietjes (talk) 16:36, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - enough of the articles exist to justify a navbox. Robofish (talk) 23:24, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Raiders1996DraftPicks edit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, mostly due to the nomination only including a single template, and not the entire group. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:54, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Raiders1996DraftPicks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Being picked in the draft for a team in a particular year is not a close connection that warrants a navbox. The AFL draft is done by year, not by eventual team (e.g. {{2009 AFL Draft}}).

Also currently unused. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:33, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to delete all the unused templates in Category:National Football League Draft navigational boxes? Also note that {{1996 NFL Draft}} and the like only list the first round. TimBentley (talk) 21:56, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to pretend I'm any sort of expert on what warrants a navbox and what does not, but I did read through Wikipedia:Deletion_policy and was not quite able to derive a concise source for your nomination. I'm not sure if using the example of the 2009 AFL Draft was accidental, as the Australian Football League is quite different than the National Football League. Suffice to say, my goal of adding this and other additional templates is to facilitate those researching the information. Presenting data in both manners (by year and by eventual team) gives different perspectives on the same events. I also do not understand your reference to the template being "currently unused" as I verified each template worked on the Template:Oakland Raiders Draft template list after I created it. - Nolook (talk) 06:47, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It is not included on any pages; that is how it is unused. See WP:NAVBOX for information on navboxes. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:51, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- But it is used as part of Template:Oakland Raiders Draft template list which is itself included on many pages. Additionally, the template itself is newly created, to delete this template now would ensure it is never included on any pages. Time will allow it to be included in several articles. As noted by TimBentley, there are many of these navbox templates that are not dissimilar to this one. Are you, in essence, requesting they all be deleted? Thank you for the WP:NAVBOX link. - Nolook (talk) 16:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Quite honestly, I think the proposal to mass-delete these templates has some merit. This should probably be restarted with an appropriate full list. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree. Many are actually in use, but I think they all fail WP:NAVBOX, unused or not. Depending on what happens here, I might dust off User:TTObot and start a mass nom. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:05, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:PD-EU-no author disclosure edit

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The result of the discussion was merge Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-EU-no author disclosure (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Anonymous-EU (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:PD-EU-no author disclosure with Template:Anonymous-EU.
Someone else before me had proposed it. I just happened to surf it. Honestly, processing a merging nomination for templates is not an easy job for a casual user. Anyway, they both look the same to me; the difference would be the flag addition in one template. So I don't know what else to say, but {{tfm}} should be required, not {{merge}}, for templates, so discussion is located here instead of any template's talk page. Gh87 (talk) 12:24, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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A redirect from {{Anonymous-EU}} to {{PD-EU-no author disclosure}} works for me. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:31, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Uw-rickroll edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 05:44, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-rickroll (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This user warning template seems to be solving a problem that doesn't exist. I don't believe that the rickrolling of users is prevalent enough to warrant a templated warning for that action, and it almost seems like a WP:BEANS template that could encourage this behavior by warning against it. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 18:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So far as I can see even the author has never has grounds to use it. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 21:26, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom --Guerillero | My Talk 06:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Rhode Island State Prisons edit

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete. (CSD G7: One author who has requested deletion: See below.) JamesBWatson (talk) 11:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rhode Island State Prisons (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template for which all links to be navigated are red links, and have been since 2004; articles are unlikely to ever be created. They are listed, with no additional information, at List of Rhode Island state prisons. The links should probably be redirected there also. bd2412 T 16:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Delete. I created this way back - no longer useful. Neutrality^talk 03:04, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:SiteAt edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:35, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:SiteAt (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless template without documentation Bulwersator (talk) 16:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Simplecalendar edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:35, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Simplecalendar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template. Userfy? Bulwersator (talk) 16:00, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Signatureshort edit

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete.

Template:Signatureshort (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless template Bulwersator (talk) 15:57, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete by creator: Wow, do I not remember why I did that... I've CSD G7 tagged it to speed the process along. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:10, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Shortcat edit

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The result of the discussion was delete, not in use, and no indication that this is desired given how long it has been unused. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:36, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Shortcat (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless template Bulwersator (talk) 15:55, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

comment we have {{cl}} and {{lc}} and {{cat}} , this would seem to be a reasonable companion to those templates. If it were properly linked and documented... (and renamed... like {{catname}} or something. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 05:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Shetland Islands places edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:37, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Shetland Islands places (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unfinished template Bulwersator (talk) 15:51, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sheopur district topics edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sheopur district topics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template Bulwersator (talk) 15:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:PD-Smith edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-Smith (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Usused template, there is no need for duplicating commons templates. Bulwersator (talk) 15:48, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:ZeptoLab edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ZeptoLab (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary template. Of the 9 links 3 are red links, the two subsidiaries point to the same article, 3 of the links at the games point to the same article and the last one is a useless link. Besides that it containes mistakes (Electronic Arts is the parent company, not a subsidiary). With so few links is also looks a case of WP:NENAN. Night of the Big Wind _talk 05:46, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The relevant articles here are obviously sufficiently well interlinked as to obviate the need for a navbox. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Salvador albums edit

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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:40, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Salvador albums (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I don't think that a navigation box with 4 links is needed in the encyclopedia... | ^help _dןǝɥ | 03:27, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NENAN, WP:WTAF. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:12, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
keep, 6 links is enough (including the top link). Frietjes (talk) 17:23, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Have you seen the articles? Skeletons consisting of nothing but an infobox and discography table. A better solution would be a page merge. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:28, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - sounds like something to discuss at AfD. however, given that this is TfD, I would say that 6 links is enough. Frietjes (talk) 17:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I agree, 6 links is sufficient to justify a navbox. Now, some of those articles may not pass the notability guidelines, but if so that's not an issue for TFD. Robofish (talk) 23:22, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Incomplete table edit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:42, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Incomplete table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, very few transclusions —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Actually wanted to nominate it myself for the same reason. But nominator beat me to it. Fleet Command (talk) 08:19, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Is used with good purpose in about 40 different articles as of now. It is not a template that is intended to be permanent, so this number could fluctuate, but it has good use in aiming to improve articles. The nom's rationale is quite vague, and is based very much on personal taste and not Wikipedia guidelines.Sebwite (talk) 19:53, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - in use, and potentially useful. If it's being deprecated, it should only be deleted once there are no transclusions. Robofish (talk) 23:21, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Directors General of UNESCO edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:42, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Directors General of UNESCO (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template Bulwersator (talk) 10:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, but not unusable. There does not seem to be a substitute providing the same information, so why not just place this on the articles for which it is relevant? bd2412 T 19:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

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This template is substituted here Bulwersator (talk) 15:53, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Subst and delete, as it only seems to be used in one article, no template is needed. Robofish (talk) 23:20, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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