Yahoo! Messenger (17/05/2008 19:57:23): Seav has joined the conference.

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 19:59:53): why is this voice chat?

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:00:04): No, thank you.

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:00:09): Voice is enabled

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:00:15): ok

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:01:21): my computer is erroring, it doesnt support this stuff

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:02:15): what have you guys been talking about before I joined

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:02:52): none so far

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:03:01): can we switch to text only

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:03:10): my comoputer is killing me

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:03:15): you can get off

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:03:30): get off what?

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:03:35): the chat

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:03:40): and rejoin...

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:03:41): ok

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:04:29): so what happened?

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:04:34): it's better

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:05:36): so what's the goal for this chat

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:08:58): it is supposed to iron out things about the phil wikimedia org and other things I suggested in tambayan

Yahoo! Messenger (17/05/2008 20:12:55): Nino Gonzales has joined the conference.

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:13:04): welcome

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:13:05): hello

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:14:20): how's the Cebu meetup?

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:15:36): bentong and i will definitely meet up

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:15:53): participation in the summit... wanted to get your inputs before i make commitments

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:16:05): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Cebu_1

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:16:35): you guys ok with the phil wikipedia community being an "implementing partner"

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:16:54): what is that?

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:17:12): As a Local Implementing Partner, wherein your organization's involvement in the Philippine Open Source Summit 2008 shall include, but not necessarily be limited to, the following � 1. Promote and encourage participation among your members, collaborators and affiliates � as conference delegate or sponsor/exhibitor � to the Philippine Open Source Summit 2008 2. Distribute promotional materials/brochures and/or delegate invitation (HTML, hard copy, or fax) to your members; and, 3. Form part of the panel in either the plenary session and technology breakout sessions, with cost of travel, accommodation, and honorarium taken cared of by the Local Implementing Partner. For its part, the Cebu Chamber CBM Foundation shall extend its support to the

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:18:35): Sponsorship is definitely not an option for us.

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:18:47): ok

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:19:06): well thats fine with me

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:20:14): if no one will oppose by tonight, i'll assume it's ok with everyone else as well... i've posted that more than a week ago...

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:21:44): i hope you have enough manpower in that exhibit

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:22:17): you're going right?

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:23:20): I hope I could come but I have a tight sched in the next two months

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:24:05): eugene, how about you?

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:25:09): I'm quite concerned. I've informed more participants but they're still offline.

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:25:29): last time dba we also started late

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:27:00): last time when I was joined in at 8:30 there were about 6 i think and there was an active discussion

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:28:53): we had months of months of pent up discussion last time

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:29:02): *of months

Seav (17/05/2008 20:31:11): no trips for me

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:31:52): what if it's free?

Seav (17/05/2008 20:32:13): it's a bit unlikely still

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:37:13): any of you guys have any objections if we approach the wpinas folks? they might be able to sponsor planefares and registration... we could partner with the booth...

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:37:48): no objections

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:38:17): but I'm not really optimistic about that

Nino Gonzales (17/05/2008 20:42:29): well, at least we can try

Exec8 (17/05/2008 20:42:41): me too

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:43:52): so far, compared to last week, this discussion is dead do you guys want to discuss something that needs to be done

Yahoo! Messenger (17/05/2008 20:55:42): apcbarazon has joined the conference.

apcbarazon (17/05/2008 20:56:06): long time no hear/see, amigos :D

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:56:23): who are you at Wikipedia?

apcbarazon (17/05/2008 20:56:49): titopao :)

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:56:55): ah ok hi

apcbarazon (17/05/2008 20:57:09): :D

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:57:22): none of much activity has been going so far

apcbarazon (17/05/2008 20:57:28): who else are we expecting tonight?

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:57:33): do you have anything to suggest talking about?

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:57:36): we'll

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 20:57:43): i don't really know

Yahoo! Messenger (17/05/2008 21:06:35): Sky Harbor has joined the conference.

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:06:44): finally you're here

Exec8 (17/05/2008 21:07:04): No, thank you.

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:07:42): so any opinions about Tagalog translation standardisations in tlwiki?

Yahoo! Messenger (17/05/2008 21:07:52): Sky Harbor has joined the conference.

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:08:08): out of all the topics...that had to be discussed?

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:08:08): for those wondering about this, it's in http://tl.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:KAPE

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:08:14): it's a matter of personal preference

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:08:23): well since none has been discused here so far

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:08:40): nobody here is talking about anything much for quite an hour

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:08:45): except for Nino

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:08:50): and Exec8

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:08:59): but that like 30:00 ago

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:09:16): i want to finish the important things first, for one

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:09:24): go on

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:09:42): well, we ARE on a race here

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:10:06): against the Indonesians, isn't it

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:10:11): yeah

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:12:53): and if i am right, they are ahead

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:14:49): as far as i know, they already had their documents inspected

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:14:55): but translation isn't done

felipe_aira (17/05/2008 21:15:09): since they had it in Indonesian

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:15:49): well, we have a lesser capital requirement

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:15:54): are your pledges still valid?

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:16:58): depends on the bank that we open with

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:17:13): it can range from 20,000 to 50,000 minimum

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:17:48): i can go for either BDO or Landbank

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:17:53): both have advantages

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:18:33): well, i am thinking of people in far-flung provinces

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:19:21): checking account

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:19:39): i know they are, but we have to choose a bank that would be good for ALL members

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:19:45): there are many provinces without a BDO branch

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:20:25): there are still some provinces that do not have a branch

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:20:29): like marinduque

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:20:30): and batanes

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:20:47): you never know

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:20:57): and many provinces in mindanao too

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:22:34): well, we are thinking quite a bit into the future

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:23:12): it shouldn't be though that we would make an inconvenience for people who have no access to a BDO branch because it's in a major metropolitan area

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:23:15): it isn't

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:23:20): we have to prepare ALL the paperwork

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:24:58): and yes, we are in a race of sorts

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:25:08): because they also need to raise money

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:26:00): as i said, it would be quite difficult to do so

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:26:10): each bank has different requirements, for one

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:26:18): and whatever bank we choose, that's how much money we need

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:26:48): that reminds me...whatever bank we choose, we need to choose a branch

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:27:59): uh huh

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:28:07): we don't even have a city of incorporation

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:28:12): and i will NOT open at megamall

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:28:18): i fell out with that branch in 2006

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:29:04): long story...BDO Megamall B refused to issue me an international ATM card

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:29:09): so i moved to Harrison Plaza

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:29:45): but i am well-remembered by the staff

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:29:50): my first account was in that branch

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:30:19): it has to be the secretary

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:30:58): as far as i know

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:31:44): then we do it on a saturday

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:31:52): if all of you are willing to open with BDO

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:32:59): that reminds me...where are we incorporating?

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:34:47): makati?

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Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:36:34): i wouldn't know

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:36:42): remember, all incorporators have to be of legal age

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:37:58): so i'm out

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:38:28): as far as i know, an address was not demanded

Jojit fb (17/05/2008 21:39:54): I thought "City of Manila, Philippines" was enough.

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:40:03): so it would read: "...That the principal office of the corporation is located in the City of Manila, Metro Manila, Philippines;"

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:40:58): but who lives in manila?

Jojit fb (17/05/2008 21:41:03): I do

Jojit fb (17/05/2008 21:41:15): Paco to be exact

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:41:29): wherever we base our office, that is where we have to get the CTC, barangay clearance and business permit

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:41:38): exactly

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:41:46): CTC, barangay clearance and business permit

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:41:49): and TIN application

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:42:34): among other applications

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:43:14): i was thinking of an area with more or less a definitive set of barangays

Jojit fb (17/05/2008 21:43:29): like what?

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:43:33): not sure

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:43:39): because it would reflect in the address

Sky Harbor (17/05/2008 21:44:22): but you at least know what barangay you reside in?