SSSniperWolf now has an article.

This is an overview of sources for SSSniperwolf. (for anyone confused: the first two S stand for "sexysexy", no known affiliation with a certain paramilitary organisation, "SniperWolf" refers to the Metal Gear character of the same name)

As the discussion is all over the place, this page provides an overview of known sources (reliable or not) and whether that source may contribute to notability.

This table was *cough* borrowed from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SSSniperwolf (2nd nomination) by User:Siroxo and expanded.

Potentially contributes to notability edit

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
TwinGalaxies   Twin Galaxies ~ situational according to WP:VG/S: "TG is one of the first authorities on video game record-setting (mainly score attack), having endured a hiatus and change of ownership with a new site. For modern records and for speed runs, consider Speed Demos Archive and Guinness."   ~ Partial
New York Times   New York Times   WP:RSP: "There is consensus that The New York Times is generally reliable. WP:RSOPINION should be used to evaluate opinion columns" (this is an opinion column) ~ Only three lines about her: "American English among young people gets more infused by Black English by the decade. My girls enjoy a YouTuber known as SSSniperWolf, a young woman of, reportedly, Turkish and Greek ancestry who pops off casually with Black English words and idioms. For instance, I’ve rarely heard the whimsically scatological “dookie” uttered by someone who wasn’t Black. But she isn’t pulling some sort of quotidian minstrelsy; this effortless infusion of Black English expressions is now routine among many Americans her age and even older." ~ Partial
Polygon   Polygon   WP:RSP: "Polygon is considered generally reliable for video games and pop culture related topics"   Yes
Kotaku Australia   Kotaku ~ WP:VG/S considers post-2022 articles to be situtational and to be avoided.   ~ Partial
Arizona Business Gazette (via Newspapers.com)   "Catherine Reagor, Arizona Republic, USA Today Network"   WP:RSP#USA Today ~ Two paragraphs of coverage, could be used for some trivia ~ Partial
InTheKnow   Yahoo! News   WP:RSP: "Yahoo! News runs both original reporting and syndicated feeds of other sources. Editors have treated the original reporting as an ordinary WP:NEWSORG, and thus presumed generally reliable. Take care with syndicated content, which varies from highly reliable sources to very unreliable sources. Syndicated content should be evaluated as you would evaluate the original source. Syndicated content will have the original source's name and/or logo at the top."   Yes
InTheKnow   Yahoo! News   WP:RSP: "Yahoo! News runs both original reporting and syndicated feeds of other sources. Editors have treated the original reporting as an ordinary WP:NEWSORG, and thus presumed generally reliable. Take care with syndicated content, which varies from highly reliable sources to very unreliable sources. Syndicated content should be evaluated as you would evaluate the original source. Syndicated content will have the original source's name and/or logo at the top."   Yes


dotesports   dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   Yes
dotesports   dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   Yes
dotesports   dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   Yes
dotesports   dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   Yes
dotesports   dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S ~ more about Pokimane ~ Partial
The Messenger   The Messenger (website) ~   ~ Partial
The Messenger   The Messenger (website) ~   ~ Partial
Yahoo! News   Yahoo! News   WP:RSP: "Yahoo! News runs both original reporting and syndicated feeds of other sources. Editors have treated the original reporting as an ordinary WP:NEWSORG, and thus presumed generally reliable. Take care with syndicated content, which varies from highly reliable sources to very unreliable sources. Syndicated content should be evaluated as you would evaluate the original source. Syndicated content will have the original source's name and/or logo at the top."   Yes
Hindustan Times   Hindustan Times     Yes
Hindustan Times   Hindustan Times     Yes
Hindustan Times   Hindustan Times     Yes
Hindustan Times   Hindustan Times     Yes
Tuko       Yes
Tuko       Yes
Time   Time   WP:RSP: "There is consensus that Time is generally reliable. Time's magazine blogs, including Techland, should be handled with the appropriate policy. Refer to WP:NEWSORG for guidance on op-eds, which should only be used with attribution."   Yes
Prolific North   Secondary coverage, unsure about site, but credited author seems legitimate.   <--see ~ ~310 words, mostly about subject's earnings ~ Partial
Tubefilter ~ mostly interview, verifies and analyzes some statistics ~ industry pub that disclosed a sponsor for the story   excluding the interview we have some confirmed stats and minor analysis ~ Partial
Ana Ruiz Segarra, The University of Western Ontario   masters thesis ~ masters thesis ~ 33 words of coverage. ~ Partial
AZCentral     ~ mostly routine (real estate etc), verifies profession and some subscriber counts ~ Partial
tuko   see comment below   see comment below   Is SIGCOV, (please take care, as much cannot be used for BLP) Yes
Dexerto (initially presented below)   no flags ~ No specific flags so not "red" for this article, but it's primarily "gossip" type stuff mostly unsuitable for BLP; while the author seems fine, the source is widely considered unreliable on wikipedia.[1][2]   ~ Partial
Forbes   Forbes   Written by Antonio Pequeño IV (Forbes staff), not a "Senior contributor" like the other Forbes article   Yes
NBC   NBC News   WP:RSP: "There is consensus that NBC News is generally reliable for news."   Yes
Nicki Swift   seems to be secondary synthesis of other videos and interviews ~ Seems reliable for "gossip" type coverage and little more, we can't reliably source much more from it, esp due to BLP "We don't just report news, we editorialize it in a way that drives the conversation forward."   ~ Partial
Insider   Insider Inc. ~ WP:RSP#Insider   ~ Partial
Mein MMO     w:de:Mein MMO, partner of GameStar (best-selling German-language magazine focused on PC gaming)   Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

To be determined edit

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
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Irrelevant edit

Maybe reliable, but most of them probably not. But none will add any value over the reliable sources already identified.

Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
meaww.com     WP:RSP#MEAWW ~ No
Washington Independent   From another article: "Join oil mastery and experience trading at its finest and to make sure that new users have the best trading experience from day one." and "oil mastery" is a link to some garbage.   Has a reliable-looking name and there are other publications using the same name that may be reliable. But this one has no editorial policy. Can't really find anything about them, but they have an article titled "Best Altcoins To Buy - Five Altcoins To Grow Your In October 2023" (yes, it says "Grow Your In") that states "In this article, we'll explore the top 5 altcoins to buy in October 2023 to get 20x portfolio growth." I'll pass.   No
Centennial     "Viral" section seems to be only about internet scandals and feuds, possible tabloid   No
CFP: Celebrities of Gaming: The 5th Jyväskylä Autumn Seminar       only published coverage is a name in list No
Deadline       3 words of sigcov - minor award No
Hollywood reporter       minor award again No
eonline       minor award again No
GameRant     valnet property + pseudonymous author = no accountability   No
Polygon     WP:RSP: "Polygon is considered generally reliable for video games and pop culture related topics"   No
Bachelor thesis     bachelor thesis   No
Vogue   interview     No
SVG   almost entirely attributed to subject, and seems to keep subject voice without quoting at times, does not seem to have done any further verification past a single interview with subject   Tabloid publication   No
win.gg     win.gg is tied to sports betting company   No
win.gg     win.gg is tied to sports betting company   No
win.gg     win.gg is tied to sports betting company   No
Forbes   Forbes   Written by a Forbes.com contributor. WP:RSP: "Most content on Forbes.com is written by Senior Contributors or Contributors with minimal editorial oversight, and is generally unreliable. Editors show consensus for treating Forbes.com contributor articles as self-published sources, unless the article was written by a subject-matter expert. Forbes.com contributor articles should never be used for third-party claims about living persons. Forbes Councils, being pay-to-publish and similarly lacking oversight, also fall into this category. Articles that have also been published in the print edition of Forbes are excluded, and are considered generally reliable. Check the byline to determine whether an article is written by 'Forbes Staff' or a 'Contributor', and check underneath the byline to see whether it was published in a print issue of Forbes. Previously, Forbes.com contributor articles could have been identified by their URL beginning in 'forbes.com/sites'; the URL no longer distinguishes them, as Forbes staff articles have also been moved under '/sites'."   No
Forbes   Forbes   WP:FORBESCON Forbes.com contributor articles should never be used for third-party claims about living persons   No
Sportskeeda     [3]   No
Sportskeeda   Sportskeeda   WP:RSP: "Sportskeeda is considered generally unreliable due to a consensus that there is little or no editorial oversight over the websites content, which is largely user-written. "   No
Sportskeeda   Sportskeeda   WP:RSP: "Sportskeeda is considered generally unreliable due to a consensus that there is little or no editorial oversight over the websites content, which is largely user-written. "   No
Distractify   Distractify   WP:RSP: "There is consensus that Distractify is generally unreliable. Editors believe Distractify runs run-of-the-mill gossip that is unclearly either user-generated or written by staff members. Editors should especially refrain from using it in BLPs. "   No
Healthandbeautystuff     Appears to be a blog from a single person, so no RS   Article is only a 20 - 30 sentences long No
Dramaalert   Keemstar   Probably no editorial oversight   No
prnewswire     Press releases do not contribute to notability   No
BusinessInsider     Press releases do not contribute to notability   No
Dexerto   Dexerto   WP:RSP: "Dexerto is a website covering gaming news, internet personalities, and entertainment. Editors agree that it is a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability."   No
Dexerto   Dexerto   WP:RSP: "Dexerto is a website covering gaming news, internet personalities, and entertainment. Editors agree that it is a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability."   No
Dexerto   Dexerto   WP:RSP: "Dexerto is a website covering gaming news, internet personalities, and entertainment. Editors agree that it is a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability."   No
Dexerto ~ recaps information from an existing YouTube video by Paddy Galloway, with no added commentary   WP:RSP: "Dexerto is a website covering gaming news, internet personalities, and entertainment. Editors agree that it is a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability."   No
The Thaiger ~ The Thaiger   Special:Diff/1182681747   No
The Thaiger ~ The Thaiger   Special:Diff/1182681747   No


Forbes profile   mostly from subject   ~ No
Hard-drive.net   Hard Drive (website)   Satirical website   No
Hard-drive.net   Hard Drive (website)   Satirical website   No
The Verge   The Verge   WP:RSP: "There is broad consensus that The Verge is a reliable source for use in articles relating to technology, science, and automobiles. Some editors question the quality of The Verge's instructional content on computer hardware."   mention only No
Black Girl Nerds     Personal blog (see homepage of website)   No
soestnu.nl     "Soest" refers to Soest, Netherlands but the site isn't even about that. It's just global news stories that were poorly machine translated. (it says she "stond in een vuurstorm", a literal translation of "has been at the center of a firestorm" (Forbes) and complete nonsense in Dutch)   No
prematch.com     Looks like another machine translation   No
orsk.today     Looks like another machine translation   No
androbit.net     Is another machine translation from the first Forbes contributor article, unreliable   No
manavgatsonhaber.com     Looks like another machine translation   No
uniquenewsonline.com     Blatant content farm   No
Fredzone (in French)   ~ Some articles have clickbait titles, possibly little to no editorial oversight   Passing mention No
MSN   Mirror page of SVG.com   Duplicate article   No
MSN   Mirror page of themessenger.com's website   tabloid publication   No
Lampung7   ~ Google translation shows that some headlines can be clickbait   vague mention No
Tubefilter ~ Tubefilter has a reputation of being indirectly promotional   Tubefilter is generally reliable for uncontroversial topics related to internet culture.   passing mention No
sabah.com.tr (in Turkish)   ~ Possible tabloid   mention No
Looper   Compact version of SVG article (Looper and SVG are both part of Static Media) ~ Possibly unreliable due to the page being a condensed version of an SVG article   No
Nicki Swift ~ Static Media   Static Media owns a considerable amount of clickbait and/or tabloid news websites.   No
Nicki Swift ~ Static Media   Static Media owns a considerable amount of clickbait and/or tabloid news websites.   No
Tubefilter ~   Tubefilter is generally reliable for uncontroversial topics related to internet culture.   No
SVG ~ Static Media   Static Media owns a considerable amount of clickbait and/or tabloid news websites.   No
Monsters and Critics   Monsters and Critics   No previous discussion, but it looks like a churnalism site.   No
GameRant   GameRant   WP:VG/S says that GameRant should not be used in BLPs.   No
The Sports Grail     Article is largely based on comments from internet users   No
NDTV ~ NDTV, article consists mostly of quoted tweets ~   Article consists mostly of quoted tweets No
Comicbook ~ List of assets owned by Paramount Global#PCM, article consists mostly of quoted tweets ~   Article consists mostly of quoted tweets No
game-news24 ~   Machine translation? Half the lines are nonsense.   No
ShiftDelete.net (in Turkish)     Translations show that this website is a content farm   passing mention No
criptopasion.com (in Spanish)     Blog with possibly no editorial oversight   mention No
antaranews.com (in Indonesian)   Antara (news agency) ~ Reliabilty is unclear   Passing mention No
SaralNama (in Indonesian) ~ Article consists mostly of quoted tweets ?   Article consists mostly of quoted tweets No
dotesports   dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   part of a list of participants No


Betheknockout     Very gossip-y, possible content farm   No
HotNewHipHop ~ HotNewHipHop   Looks like a tabloid   No
HotNewHipHop ~ HotNewHipHop   Looks like a tabloid   No
Soapask ?   Looks like a tabloid   No
Strange Buildings     Allows guest posts, unclear if/how guest posts are indicated, unclear editorial policy/oversight ~ Largely about her house. No
Pelhamplus ~ Allows guest posts   Line between user-generated content and staff content is unclear   No
Pinkvilla ~ Pinkvilla   tabloid ~ No
Pinkvilla ~ Pinkvilla   tabloid ~ No
Pinkvilla ~ Pinkvilla   tabloid   No
LegalEagle   LegalEagle   Self published   No


Otakukart     Blantant churnalism   No


hitek.fr (in French)     Tabloid   No
Benzinga   Benzinga   Accepts guest posts   No
Yen.com.gh   Yen.com.gh   WP:RSN (revision 1182860935)   No
Comicbook   It reports on SSSniperWolf winning "favorite gamer" in the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards of 2020 but both Nickelodeon and Comicbook.com are owned by Paramount Global. As SSSniperWolf was a contestant the source isn't fully independent of her either, but this could be used as a primary source. Does not contribute to notability though. ~ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources/Archive 22#Did You Know Gaming?   No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Links from deleted versions of the article edit

These don't need a full assessment, just move them to the appropriate subsection. First pass is done.

TBD edit

  • done

Now used in article edit

Closer look needed edit

Already knew about edit

Not helping edit

May include some we already knew about, but who cares.

See also edit

Rejected by User:Joe Roe for the following reason: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Additional comment(s):

  •   Comment: There is a broad consensus that SSSniperWolf does not currently meet Wikipedia's notability (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SSSniperWolf (5th nomination) for the latest of many discussions) and the repeated recreation of this article has proved disruptive enough that the title has been protected so that only administrators can create it. Given this history, any new draft needs to make a very compelling case that the available sourcing has substantially changed. I'm not seeing any evidence of that here.
    Volunteer time on this project is limited; please do not resubmit this draft until some time has passed and there are significant new sources to present. – Joe (talk) 15:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment: I feel like this should go to WP:Deletion Review or something–this shouldn't be decided by one reviewer since there was so much deletion discussion on it. Ca talk to me! 01:25, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment: The concerns brought up in the previous AfDs were mostly about sourcing and notability, so I think this draft should be fine as long as the references are solid. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment: Just noting for the record that the 5th (!!) AfD on this closed as 'delete' less than two months ago. DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:56, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]