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Korean help

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There is a street address in http://www.jejuair.net/company/images/contactus_map_03.jpg

What is the Korean (typed)? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 08:50, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The text after "주소" (which means "address") reads: 제주득별자치도 제주시 연동 301–7. I don't know Korean and I can't be sure about my comment, but I think there is at least one typo in it: the full Korean name of the Jeju Province is 제주특별자치도, that is, the third character is 특 theuk, and not 득 deuk as it appears in the image. --Theurgist (talk) 17:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much :) WhisperToMe (talk) 00:11, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic help

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There is an Arabic name of Royal Wings at http://www.royalwings.com.jo/images/3.jpg What is it? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 17:04, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

الأجنحة الملكية‎, as seen here. --Theurgist (talk) 17:23, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you :) WhisperToMe (talk) 19:40, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jana Gana Mana

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I just read the article Jana Gana Mana. Now I've actually once taken the trouble to learn the basics of the devanagari script, although I don't remember nearly all of it. But what caught my eye was the first part: জনগণমন. I remember that the letter ন means "na". So why does it only appear in the first and third word, not the second one? Why isn't it জনগনমন? (Note: I had to copy&paste all the devanagari text. My keyboard obviously lacks direct devanagari keys.) JIP | Talk 20:57, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the article Bengali alphabet, it appears that the letter 'ণ' is in the second (retroflex) series, whereas 'ন' is in the third (dental) series; but they are both glossed as 'n'. It would appear therefore that in Sanskrit these words have different nasal consonants, but that the difference is neutralised in Bengali, but the difference in spelling is preserved. --ColinFine (talk) 23:44, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Translation Portuguese/English

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I have already translated an article from portuguese, but I'm not sure if the english translation is well, can someone give a help revising the english of the translation? It's Talk:Miguel, Crown Prince of_Portugal#Draft, on point III. Thank you for your attention, Jorge alo (talk) 14:18, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did you mean to link to Talk:Miguel, Crown Prince of_Portugal#Draft? 86.179.114.20 (talk) 03:17, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think he did.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 18:57, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the BBC series Cranford, they used the word "receipt" to mean a recipe for food. Is this British English, obsolete, or both ? Wiktionary:receipt lists recipe as the 6th meaning, but is this British, obsolete, or what ? I've never heard it used that way before in the US. StuRat (talk) 22:58, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's old rather than British. I remember seeing it in the Homer Price books; you can't get much more American than that. --Trovatore (talk) 23:04, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
According to the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, it has an archaic meaning of "recipe".

receipt noun

I 1 = recipe noun ... c The formula of a preparation, or an account of the means, for effecting some end; the means for attaining an end. archaic early 17th century.

Mitch Ames (talk) 00:02, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's certainly been in use much more recently than that. Homer Price was published in 1943. --Trovatore (talk) 09:35, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh indeed, Jennifer Paterson of the Two Fat Ladies used to use it quite extensively in her spoken pieces to camera. However I don't have any of their cookbooks to check whether she used it in writing. The series original ran from 1996 - 1999, but has been repeated since. --TammyMoet (talk) 13:18, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That does seem to imply that it's more common in British English than US English. Sounds like it became archaic in the US first. StuRat (talk) 05:12, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The two words appear to have a common origin:[1][2]Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots14:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, all. StuRat (talk) 09:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pajama man song

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In the article The Yama Yama Man, there is mentioned something called a "pajama man song" (first paragraph in the Origins section with a [clarification needed] tag, sourced from The Billboard magazine). It appears to be a turn of the century American neologism from the world of stage and theater, however unclear what exactly it means. Any ideas? My guess is they were comical acts involving people in clown suits ("pajamas") but it's a guess and there might be a more specific meaning. I searched Google, Google Books and OED without much luck. Green Cardamom (talk) 22:58, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This might be a stumper. Well I won't check back here but if anyone has an idea please post on Talk:The Yama Yama Man, thanks! The article is coming up for a DYK in a week or so. Green Cardamom (talk) 19:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I went looking for context, and couldn't find it. Why does Google Books only allow snippet view for Billboard magazine from 1908, and why are the snippets so small as to be illegible, and why do many of the highlight boxes appear over blank white areas instead of over the text?  Card Zero  (talk) 22:11, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Does this link work? It's in the far-right column. There should be a zoom (+) button at the top. Green Cardamom (talk) 03:09, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What I see there is just a 132x183 pixel image of the front cover, which isn't clickable. There is no aspect of the page layout fitting the description "far right column", and no zoom button. It still looks the same when I tried with a different computer (different OS, different ISP). Odd.  Card Zero  (talk) 10:06, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Might be a regional restriction. I've uploaded a copy to Internet Archive], can you access it? It's 350MB, if you want, wait a day or so the "Read Online" version will show up (takes a while for it to convert/derive). Green Cardamom (talk) 02:54, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]