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Origin of the family name HALEF

Hello everyone. I am looking for sources that prove that the name Halef is widespread within the Aramaic/Assyrian/Syriac people, whose origin is the Tur Abdin. To our knowledge, the origin of the name is traced back to the Halaf/Halef culture (see Tell Halaf). It is not correct that the name is only of Arabic origin. The sources are intended to supplement/correct the Wikipedia article "Halef". Utpo (talk) 08:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Is your intention to create a Wikipedia article on the name Halef? Please read Help:Your first article. Your first concern should be to find sources that establish the topic is notable.  --Lambiam 11:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

There is already an existing article in german.

I want to add more/other information, but I dont find the sources as I mendioned before.

Also I dont think that the sources which were used in the existing article are working and meaningful. Utpo (talk) 11:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

The German page Halef is not an article but a disambiguation page. It seems to relate the name to Arabic خلف, with an initial خ (usually transliterated in English as ⟨kh⟩), instead of the name حلف found in Tell Halaf.  --Lambiam 11:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Utpo -- The modern names of prehistoric cultures (Mohenjo-Daro, Natufian, Çatalhöyük etc) are almost never what the people in those cultures would have called themselves. AnonMoos (talk) 12:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Can I delete this topic which I opened? Utpo (talk) 12:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

You can strike-through your own comments, but it isn't usually permitted to delete other people's on-topic comments on a discussion page which is not in your personal userspace, unless they agree... AnonMoos (talk) 13:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Indeed, the Halaf culture is named after the archaeological site Tell Halaf, which is a relatively young name. An earlier name is Guzana, recorded as גּוֹזָ֖ן‎ (Gozan) in the Bible (in 2 Kings 17:6 and 18:11).  --Lambiam 20:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

As opposed to the name of Bethlehem, which has remained similar in form for the last 3,300 years or more (with some relatively minor pronunciation variations), but whose meaning has changed from "Temple of the god Lahmu" (Canaanite) to "House of bread" (Hebrew) to "House of meat" (Arabic). AnonMoos (talk) 10:29, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Arthur Adam

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Are there some sources about his full life? -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.40.232.112 (talk) 10:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC) All that can be said is that if there were, they should be easy to find by now. There was a great fuss around Arthur Adam's 1944 account to Martin Borman because of a renewed interest in the person of Claus von Stauffenberg, a few years ago. Maybe take a look into that other account for some new line of research ? --Askedonty (talk) 14:59, 22 March 2024 (UTC)