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December 13

Enhanced Games

Pageviews are rising on this article I started [1], and I'm not sure why. Ideas, anyone? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

An unexpected rise in pageviews is sometimes caused by technical reasons, e.g. a misconfigured bot that repeatedly requests a page. In such a case, the pageviews will be heavily weighted toward one of the "platform" or "agent" options on the pageviews site. In this case, all platforms and all agents have risen significantly in recent days; this means that the rise really is due to many more people attempting to access the page. I'll let others ascertain why. Nyttend (talk) 18:36, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

The topic seems to have been on TikTok a bit, but I'm not sure how much that means. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:44, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

It might be merely that the event is (now) scheduled to take place in 12 months' time, and some news media like to use that a prompt to publish an article or at least mention it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 20:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Where did you see it's now scheduled? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

The second sentences of both the lede and the first section of the article say it is "meant to take place in" and "originally planned for" December 2024. Although the article goes on to backpedal this with qualifiers, December 2024 still appears to be in some way significant for the event, so will be ringing the media "one-year-off bell" even if stories then go on to discuss its likely delays or cancellation. Perhaps you are attributing more precision or certainty to my use of the word "scheduled" than I had intended. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 01:26, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I see what you mean. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:15, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Haruyoshi Ōkawa

Please, can you help me to find a photo of him? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.21.33.81 (talk) 10:43, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I couldn't, but I don't know Japanese. If you don't get a good reply here, you could try asking at Commons or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Maybe you can search some old Japanese journal. 193.207.147.140 (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Otaru, Hokkaido

Who was the founder of the famous glass artigianate in that Japanese city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.21.33.81 (talk) 12:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Regarding the origin of Otaru glassmaking:

The Portuguese introduced glass techniques in the 1800s^[2] From the late Edo period to the Taisho era (1912-1926), the manufacture of glass products developed around "glass floating balls" developed for use in the herring fishing industry, which was a major industry in Hokkaido.^[3]

Chiyoji Asahara is commonly mentioned as a prominent practitioner of the glass arts, but I couldn't verify whether he could be considered the "founder" of Otaru's studio glass industry.

See also: "Otaru Travel Guide 2023｜Kitaichi Glass Otaru". 小樽に遺る歴史や文化を載せた商品と、北前船の寄港地の良品をお届け 小樽百貨UNGA↑（うんがぷらす） (in Japanese).

--136.54.106.120 (talk) 15:48, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

It began with Asahara Glass, but can you find who was its founder in 1900? 193.207.147.140 (talk) 18:46, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Some will perhaps name Hisakichi Asahara, but would you be aware of something which we are not? The most commonly given date is 1910. --Askedonty (talk) 18:58, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok, but can you search info about Hisakichi Asahara's birth, family, career, death, etc.? 193.207.147.140 (talk) 19:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Asahara Glass was established in 1901, when founder Hisakichi Asahara started producing kerosene lamps.^[4] --136.54.106.120 (talk) 04:25, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok, but about his birth and death's dates? 193.207.172.61 (talk) 12:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

If it helps searching, the founder's name in Japanese is 浅原久吉. The following is translated from a section of a page on the glass floating balls on the website of Asahara Glass Works.

Many glass factories have been established in Otaru.

One of them is Asahara Glass Works.

The founder, Hisakichi Asahara, was asked by the Fisheries Research Institute at the time if it would be possible to make fishing floats, which were previously made of wood, out of glass that was cheap, light, easy to process, and transparent enough to blend into the color of the sea water.

During the Meiji and Taisho periods, floating balls were used as buoyancy bodies to float ropes when fishing for herring.

Hisakichi Asahara gathered his brothers and relatives together, taught them glass-making techniques, and expanded Asahara Glass factories across Hokkaido (Otaru, Muroran, Kushiro, Asahikawa, and Sakhalin).

The following is translated from a section on the history of Asahara Glass Works of an article on the history of glass in Otaru on the website of the Otaru Tourism Association. Mr. Asahara, being interviewed, is Saiichiro Asahara, the 4th generation owner.

History of Asahara Glass Works

Founded in 1903 in Tomioka-cho, Otaru City. Manufactures lamps and medication bottles.
(Mr. Asahara: The company was founded in 1903. I had heard that it was founded in 1900, but when I looked at the family tree that my grandfather had created, it was founded in 1903, so I revised it this year. The founder, Hisakichi Asahara, came from a glass factory in Hakata, Kyushu, that has been around since the Edo period. He went to work as an apprentice at a glass factory in Osaka, and moved to Hakodate when his senior craftsmen became independent. He later moved to Otaru on his own.)

 --Lambiam 11:52, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. According to this Japanese source, he was surely died in 1950. Can you search detailed info about it and his birth? Thank you. 79.44.90.34 (talk) 13:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

襲名 (shūmei) takes place when someone assumes the role of a predecessor, which may be upon the latter's death, but also upon their retirement. The text does not imply that the first Hisakichi was dead when Torao took on his name.  --Lambiam 19:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I've understand. Then, can you continue to search his death's date? 95.245.233.160 (talk) 16:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Is Qoropuna in this Peruvian myth the same as Coropuna

According to this source and source, in a mythology of the Huaquirca District in Peru souls have to ascend a mountain named "qoropuna" and may get punished for their transgressions against, among other things, kitchen utensils. I'd like to know if that mountain is the same as the one discussed in Coropuna. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Ossio, Juan (1999). "Mortuary Rituals in the Andes" (PDF). Journal of the Anthropological Society of Oxford. seems to use both spellings and 'Qoropuna' a volcano located to the south-west in Arequipa Department. fiveby(zero) 16:55, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Don't have enough Spanish to see if this quoting from here is helpful? Qoropuna [Coropuna] es hatun auki es decir el awki mayor [personaje de respeto] ella ordena a todas las montanas...las almas pasan por el Volcån Anoqara (el Chachani) Auqui (crown prince) and Chachani? fiveby(zero) 17:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Johan Reinhard's article here isn't much help except to suggest that maybe someone with Spanish needs to look in:

• Valderrama, R.; Escalante, C. (1980). "Apu Qorpuna". Debates en Antropología.
• Arguedas, J. (1956). "Puquio, una cultura en proceso de cambio". Revista del Museo Nacional (de Historia).

to confirm Juan Ossio Acuña is correct. fiveby(zero) 17:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Everything relating the account i've found, including your two links, cites Valderrama and Escalante and/or Peter Gose Deathly Waters and Hungry Mountains. Can't find Gose but "Apu Qorpuna" has:

El mundo de los de la otra vida está ubicado geográficamente en el Qorpuna (volcán situado en el departamento de Arequipa). Se lo considera como un pueblo al interior del cerro, al igual que en otros mitos

Reinhard, and from the article Nicole Fortané use 'Coropuna' and cite Valderrama and Escalante. fiveby(zero) 04:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)