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November 21

H. Bruce Franklin, Robert A. Heinlein

did they become friends after Franklin wrote his book about Heinlein? Just wondering, because they seemed like they could have been respectful opponents during the period of writing of Franklin's book.Rich (talk) 06:15, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

They definitely knew each other This says that Heinlein was an active participant in the creation of Franklin's book. --Jayron32 15:09, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

If the info given here is correct, Franklin misrepresented himself to get the interview, and Heinlein's wife reportedly wanted to have nothing to do with him. Their political views seem to be worlds apart.  --Lambiam 19:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

ok, pretty sorry to hear that. but heinlein had been leftist at one time. Don't see why Virginia Heinlein should have to despise a younger man just because he was leftist, when heinlein had also been. Of course there is the alleged misrepresentation. Hope i'm not getting too emotionally involved here.Rich (talk) 23:16, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks that article was also extremely interesting in another way, reminds me what was going on in some ofcthings isaac asimov and heinlein said invtheir novels and essays. Long time ago i had no idea they were arguing to each other, i thought they were just writing stuff. asimov used to say violence was last resort of the incompetent and never solved anything, and heinlein said it did. At the end asimov didn't like heinlein.Rich (talk) 23:33, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

i hate this setup sometimes i twice tried to put this as a reply to jayron, it's a fucking painRich (talk) 23:35, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

H. Bruce Franklin was much further to the left than Heinlein ever was. Heinlein supported Upton Sinclair for governor of California in 1934. Sinclair got kicked out of the Socialist Party for running on the Democratic Party ticket. Franklin, on the other hand was a militant and dogmatic Marxist/Leninist/Maoist for quite a few years. His 1980 book about Heinlein is well worth reading, though. Cullen328 (talk) 23:58, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

thanks Rich (talk) 01:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

thanks for your work! couldnt get my reply in the right place.Rich (talk) 01:35, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

crap that's not under jayron again Rich (talk) 01:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

You seem to be using the newish WP:REPLYTOOL. If you want your reply to be to Jayron32, you need to click the reply link next to Jayron32's signature and not the reply link anywhere else. Your reply itself should appear under Jayron32's comment while writing it. If your comment is appearing under someone else's linkcomment while writing it, it will stay there when you hit the reply button to submit it. Nil Einne (talk) 03:20, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

For clarity, by 'under' I meant 'under and indented to'. Since Lambiam has already replied to Jayron32, your reply should appear indented to Jayron32 but after the subthread started by Lambiam. Your reply should not appear before Lambiam's comment as it is then chronological out of place and confusing to anyone reading the thread. Please see WP:TALKREPLY and WP:INDENTATION if you're confused by correct indentation practices. This [1] was the correct position and indentation of your comment when replying to Jayron32 given the state of the thread at the time. Nil Einne (talk) 03:50, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

If a comment is meant to be directed at one person, I generally use the {{ping}} tool. If the comment is just a general statement for all, as part of the flow of the discussion, then I don't. --Jayron32 12:10, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Female American author of books about religion and spirituality

Good morning from Italy, I would like to find the name of an American woman who wrote some books about religious figures (e.g. Jesus, Mary, and so on) and spirituality but without a religious fervour and an interest in Eastern philosophy. Could you please help me? Thanks in advance.-- Carnby (talk) 07:38, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid your question is hopelessly vague. Unless you can supply more specific information, you might want to look through our list of over 200 women religious writers. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:29, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Maybe Beth Moore? She's among the most well known American female writer of Christian popular texts, mostly exegesis and apologetics. --Jayron32 15:13, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Carnby -- the most prominent semi-scholarly English-speaking woman writer on world religions in recent decades is Karen Armstrong, though she's not American... AnonMoos (talk) 15:45, 21 November 2022 (UTC)