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June 11

re: birth and death dates

Hello, I am wondering where on Wikipedia, if it is available, would an authors birth and death dates be located. The authors that I am searching for are classical authors. Their works would have been published any where from the 1300's to the 1900's.

I am doing recordings for Librivox so that information is wished for. I will check back for an answer on this board.

April Apers6090 (talk) 18:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

If we know the dates they would be in the authors' biographies, right at the beginning. Which authors are you thinking of? Check whether we have biographies of them. 2602:24A:DE47:BB20:50DE:F402:42A6:A17D (talk) 18:46, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

hello again, The authors I was thinking of are Daphne Dale & Carlton B. Case. Neither of those authors have a "page", so I am shown once I have typed their names in the search box. I just typed in a name followed with the word biography to no avail. Possibly I should be doing it differently? Please do let me know just how I can access biographies on Wikipedia? Thank you,

April Apers6090 (talk) 22:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

It looks like we don't have biographies of either of those authors. Goodreads.com has some book-related pages for both of them. Worldcat has a identity record saying Carleton B. Case was born in 1857, but doesn't give the month or day. Their page for Daphne Dale doesn't give dates, but LibraryThing says 1853–1938 here. If you can find any citeable biographical info for either of those authors, you are welcome to write biographies of them! I'm surprised we don't have them already. Normally to find a Wikipedia biography, just type the person's name into the search box, or to link to it, put it in double square brackets: typing [[Maya Angelou]] will create a link to Maya Angelou. Some searching around didn't find a death date for Carleton B. Case. 2602:24A:DE47:BB20:50DE:F402:42A6:A17D (talk) 23:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your assistance with this. I will mention the fact of the elusive dates to a Librivox admin once I research it a bit more on the sites that you have suggested. Thank you again!! Apers6090 (talk) 00:16, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Here I see "Carleton Britton Case (1857–?)", so his date of death is apparently not known – but at least we have his middle name. His precise birth date is given here as 18 November 1857, with as his place of birth Westfield, Chautauqua, New York, United States. He has an author page on Wikisource.  --Lambiam 06:50, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Well once again I must thank you for all the effort that you put forth on this. I will most certainly look at the wikisource you have mentioned. April Apers6090 (talk) 00:19, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

¶ Heaven knows, I'm no search wizard and before tonight had been completely innocent of these authors or their names, but a blind search on Bing, refined on a second try to "Daphne Dale author books", brought forth this relatively responsive item in LibraryThing (something else that I'd never known of before tonight): http://www.librarything.com/author/daledaphne:

• [my paraphrase] Daphne Dale is the pseudonym of Charles Franklin Beezley (an American man born in February 1853 who died on August 23, 1938).

However another unfamiliar site https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Beezley-203 lists a string of three Charles Franklin Beezleys with other dates. The most relevant one would seem to be this one, although it's quite likely that there's a simple coincidence of names, approximate dates and field of work (books):

Charles Franklin Beezley

Born 6 Feb 1859 in Kosciusko County, Indiana

• ANCESTORS
  • Son of William Beezley and Lydia Kile
  • Brother of Mary C Beezley, Ephraim Elmer Ellsworth Beezley and Ida Eudora Beezley
  • Husband of Beatrice Elizabeth Cummins — married 6 Jan 1881 in Carlisle, Indianamap
• DESCENDANTS
  • Father of Charles Franklin Beezley Jr, Minnie Bess Beezley, Mabel Claire Beezley, Frederick Samuel Beezley, Edwin Cummins Beezley, Ruth Allen Beezley and Mary Lois Beezley

Died 29 Aug 1938 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA

Born 6 FEB 1859. Kosciusko County, Indiana. [1][2][3][4][5][6]

Died 29 AUG 1938. Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA. [7][8][9]

Note: Listed in 1870 census of Kosciusko, Indiana: Male, age 12, born in Indiana, attending school. 1

Residence Age in 1860: 1. 1860 Tippecanoe, Kosciusko, Indiana, United States. [10] Age in 1870: 12. 1870 Pierceton, Kosciusko, Indiana, United States. [11] 1910 Chicago Ward 20, Cook, Illinois. [12] 1920 Oak Park Precinct 5, Cook, Illinois. [13] 1925 Oak Park, Illinois, USA. [14] 1930 Oak Park, Cook, Illinois. [15] Pierceton, Kosciusko, Indiana. [16] Oak Park, Cook, Illinois. [17]

Occupation: partner, book publishing house. 13 AUG 1934. Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA.

File Format: jpg. C PHOTO Scrapbook: Y.

Marriage Husband William Beezley. Wife Lydia Kile. Child: Charles Franklin Beezley. Child: Mary C Beezley. Child: Ephraim Elmer Ellsworth Beezley. Child: Ida Eudora A Beezley. Marriage 3 DEC 1857. Kosciusko County, Indiana. [18]

Sources....

—— Shakescene (talk) 04:42, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

All of your information has been quite helpful, thank you one final time.

Appreciatively yours,

April Apers6090 (talk) 23:22, 13 June 2020 (UTC)