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editDoes the young and restless star Larry Bagby have contact info for his autograph singing on his website?
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Unknown
editJust today I finished watching the film Unknown.does anyone know the real name of that Dr. Martin character played by Liam Neeson (as revealed somewhere towards the end) Didn't catch it. I searched its Wiki page, but the real name was not explicitly stated. I think its William something. Does anyone know? Thanks. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 11:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with the film, but I see nothing in Wikipedia's article on it, or in its (admittedly minimal) article on the author of the novel on which the film is based, to suggest that they are anything other than fiction. What leads you to think that the character in question is based on any real-life counterpart? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 84.21.143.150 (talk) 14:01, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- I think (not having seen the film either) that "Dr. Martin Harris" is not Liam Neeson's character's real identity in the story, and Bonkers The Clown is asking what the character's real identity turned out to be, later in the film. One article I found on Hollywood 411 mentions the scene in the film where Dr. Harris's true identity gets revealed: ‘Unknown’: similar to ‘The Bourne Identity’?, but it doesn't spell out the "real" name (and in fact talks about "They find a dozen of passports with his picture and different names."). So, I didn't answer the question, but hopefully clarified what the question is. ---Sluzzelin talk 14:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Yup, that's right; that's what I mean. Towards the end of the film, the "Martin Harris" guy retrieves a Canadian passport that reveals his true name.. William something. Can anyone who knows tell me? I would like to add it into the article. Thanks. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 08:35, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- Apologies for my misinterpretation of the question. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.19 (talk) 15:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- That's fine; Maybe I didn't word it quite well. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 11:38, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- Apologies for my misinterpretation of the question. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.19 (talk) 15:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- Yup, that's right; that's what I mean. Towards the end of the film, the "Martin Harris" guy retrieves a Canadian passport that reveals his true name.. William something. Can anyone who knows tell me? I would like to add it into the article. Thanks. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 08:35, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- I think (not having seen the film either) that "Dr. Martin Harris" is not Liam Neeson's character's real identity in the story, and Bonkers The Clown is asking what the character's real identity turned out to be, later in the film. One article I found on Hollywood 411 mentions the scene in the film where Dr. Harris's true identity gets revealed: ‘Unknown’: similar to ‘The Bourne Identity’?, but it doesn't spell out the "real" name (and in fact talks about "They find a dozen of passports with his picture and different names."). So, I didn't answer the question, but hopefully clarified what the question is. ---Sluzzelin talk 14:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
NASCAR's rule book (redux)
editLast November 15, I asked two questions about NASCAR's rulebook, namely: why they do not disclose its exact contents to the general public, and if this practice is unique to NASCAR, meaning if NASCAR is the only major sport that does not publicize its rule book in its original form. I had some satisfactory answers for the first question, but not for the second question. So once again, is NASCAR the only sport that does not publish its rulebook? The rule books of all the big six sports leagues in North America are published (online in fact), as well as the laws of association football, rugby union, rugby league, and Australian rules football. So is the practice of not publishing a sport's rulebook unique to NASCAR? I'm aware that NASCAR's rules are mostly technical data that most fans wouldn't care about, but so is Formula One's, WRC's and IHRA's, and they are available, btoh to the public and online, so why NASCAR? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:17, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Ask them. --Jayron32 12:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Except that this question is about other sports leagues with the same practice, not why NASCAR doesn't publish its rulebook. The latter was already discussed in the previous question. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:03, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- No, your question is "Why doesn't NASCAR publish its rulebook online?" The answer to your question is "Ask NASCAR because no one here works for NASCAR." This is the Reference Desk, not the Make Up Plausible Sounding Answers desk. If you want to know what NASCAR doesn't publish its rule book, ask NASCAR. --Jayron32 17:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- No, the question is : "Do you know other sports/ competitions that do not have their rules publicly available?". Besides, how do you know noone here works or worked for NASCAR ?Sorry, I do not know any, and am amazed that NASCAR does handle things this way. Pardon my German (Fiiiisch!) (talk) 23:08, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- Well, the question "So why NASCAR?" is answered by "Asking NASCAR". --Jayron32 02:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
- No, the question is : "Do you know other sports/ competitions that do not have their rules publicly available?". Besides, how do you know noone here works or worked for NASCAR ?Sorry, I do not know any, and am amazed that NASCAR does handle things this way. Pardon my German (Fiiiisch!) (talk) 23:08, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- No, your question is "Why doesn't NASCAR publish its rulebook online?" The answer to your question is "Ask NASCAR because no one here works for NASCAR." This is the Reference Desk, not the Make Up Plausible Sounding Answers desk. If you want to know what NASCAR doesn't publish its rule book, ask NASCAR. --Jayron32 17:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- I doubt this would answer the question entirely, but one thought does come to mind here. IIRC, NASCAR is a privately owned company by the France family; whereas the others (NFL, NHL, MLB, etc.) are publicly held corporations. Perhaps that's more of a "how" than a "why" answer. I've read many conspiracy theories on the "secrecy" and "total control" ideas over the years on the subject, going back to the Curtis Turner/Union fiasco of 1961; but I'm unaware of any documentation that defines answers - beyond speculation that is. I'd also note that NASCAR maintains the ability to change rules upon its own discretion, even in mid-season. Perhaps there's a "not wanting outdated rules" out in the wild desire in play as well - but again, speculation on my part. — Ched : ? 14:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- That's not exactly it. Generally, the other leagues are officially "not-for-profit" 501(c)(6) corporations which allows them certain things, like antitrust exemptions which allows them to operate as virtual monopolies in their respective sports. The sports are able to do this by maintaining a clear distinction between the league, which is a not-for-profit association that manages the scheduling and rules of the game, stuff like that, and technically independent for-profit marketing and merchandising corporations like National Football League Properties which handles all of the money making aspects of the sports. I don't know that it matters much, however, one way or another as to whether or not a league publishes its rules. --Jayron32 02:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
- As an addendum, I will mention that back in the 80s I did look at getting a NASCAR license for use at a local track. (I think at the time it was in the $200 USD neighborhood as far as costs). Now the copy of "rules" I would have received would have been specific to the local track and venue as opposed to Sprint Cup or Nationwide series, but they were available. And speaking of "venue" - the rules will be different depending on the "where" as well. Such as tracks that require a restrictor plate, or no crossing below the yellow line .. so therein adds yet another addition to an already lengthy read. Just food for thought. — Ched : ? 14:47, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Except that this question is about other sports leagues with the same practice, not why NASCAR doesn't publish its rulebook. The latter was already discussed in the previous question. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:03, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
This game contains 4 BGMs — Loginska, Bradinsky, Karinka, and Troika. The first two don't have there own articles, is there Russian music? Thanks.--124.114.153.18 (talk) 13:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Karinka is in fact "Kalinka", composed by Ivan Larionov. "Loginska" and "Bradinsky" are punny faux-Russian titles referring to login and "Brad", the first name of the video game's music composer Brad Fuller. These two tunes are made to sound "Russian", but they are original compositions for the game. See also this page on the "Videogame Music Preservation Foundation Wiki" for some more information. ---Sluzzelin talk 16:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)