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Beautiful and high technical quality. I'm posting this here hoping to get some input as to which one is the best of the four. Personal preference for no. 2 --Fir0002 08:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominated by
- Fir0002 08:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comments
- Personally I'm rather at odds with you on this. I'd rank No2 last; I prefer the 'natural' look of the others rather than the web on the wire fence. But, to be honest, I'm not a huge fan of any of them. Not that they're not good, but it's on EV grounds I think they fall down. I think the dew looks artistic, but it seems to largely obscure the web itself, thereby reducing EV. Also, as best as I can tell, none of these has a spider on them; for mine, if I was going to support an FPC of a spider's web, I'd want it to show a spider. If I was to rank from favourite down, I'd go 3, 4, 1, 2. --jjron (talk) 15:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm yeah that's a good point you raise re: lack of spider. The only thing is that I'm not sure you could get a spider in a dewy web - and the dew definitely makes the web easier to see. But not sure if i'll nominate after all because as you say that is a problem with the content of the image. --Fir0002 10:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- True, can't say I can remember seeing a spider in a dewy web - but where do they go? And the dew does help make the web easier to see, that's true, you need a pretty good coincidence of web position and sunlight to make just a normal web this visible. Just thinking a bit more also - I can imagine if you did nominate a web with a spider in it as I suggested, I could just see the complaints coming that there wasn't enough detail on the spider, not up to our usual macro standards, etc. Could the spider actually be a deterrent to a nomination of a web? --jjron (talk) 08:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Spider and Web
- True, can't say I can remember seeing a spider in a dewy web - but where do they go? And the dew does help make the web easier to see, that's true, you need a pretty good coincidence of web position and sunlight to make just a normal web this visible. Just thinking a bit more also - I can imagine if you did nominate a web with a spider in it as I suggested, I could just see the complaints coming that there wasn't enough detail on the spider, not up to our usual macro standards, etc. Could the spider actually be a deterrent to a nomination of a web? --jjron (talk) 08:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm yeah that's a good point you raise re: lack of spider. The only thing is that I'm not sure you could get a spider in a dewy web - and the dew definitely makes the web easier to see. But not sure if i'll nominate after all because as you say that is a problem with the content of the image. --Fir0002 10:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have an image of a spider, as well as its web. .what do you think about it? Sorry Fir if I'm butting in. --Muhammad(talk) 19:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- The picture itself looks OK, but the background leaves a lot to be desired, especially if you were thinking FPC. In particular that big white roof unfortunately washes out about a third of the web. The web itself also seems a bit messy at the top. I'd suggest trying to get a more consistently dark background (which could be hard, as to a degree you are limited by how the light is hitting the web) and going for a lower DOF so you blur the background as Fir has done (yours is shot at f/7.1 which puts the background too much in focus). (BTW, I notice you've got the 400D :-). Done much work with it yet?) --jjron (talk) 11:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll keep my eyes open for any more spiders and try doing what you suggested. Yes I got the 400D and its great. I have uploaded some of my recent pictures to commons. Would you please give me your opinion about them if and when you get the time? No hurries. Muhammad(talk) 12:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, just had a look. Umm, I'm having a little trouble knowing which ones are yours and which aren't. Following that link loads up a gallery, but I know at least some of those images aren't yours (perhaps you've done edits). Can you link to somewhere with just some of your recent shots? --jjron (talk) 14:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll keep my eyes open for any more spiders and try doing what you suggested. Yes I got the 400D and its great. I have uploaded some of my recent pictures to commons. Would you please give me your opinion about them if and when you get the time? No hurries. Muhammad(talk) 12:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- The picture itself looks OK, but the background leaves a lot to be desired, especially if you were thinking FPC. In particular that big white roof unfortunately washes out about a third of the web. The web itself also seems a bit messy at the top. I'd suggest trying to get a more consistently dark background (which could be hard, as to a degree you are limited by how the light is hitting the web) and going for a lower DOF so you blur the background as Fir has done (yours is shot at f/7.1 which puts the background too much in focus). (BTW, I notice you've got the 400D :-). Done much work with it yet?) --jjron (talk) 11:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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