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The Contest edit

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I've listed this article for peer review because I want to try and promote it to featured article status, making it the first Seinfeld related article to do so. It has just been promoted to GA status, seemingly with no problems, so I am not sure which parts need to be improved.

Thanks, ISD (talk) 11:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) edit

Some thing that may help...

  • Reduce choppy opening sentences in the lead, FA will demand good (if not "brilliant") prose.
  • I know you've linked out to the Nielsen rating but I still find "13/19 rating" confusing - what does it really mean?
  • Ref 19 has a rouge ].
  • Ref 14 has Sienfeld.
  • Ref 13 has rogue "

But beyond that, nothing much to add, it's in good shape! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhrfisch comments: overall a good article but needs some work to get to FA status. Here are some hopefully useful suggestions:

  • I would look at WP:IN-U and make sure that the plot and other descriptions are written from an out of universe perspective. There are several television episode articles that are FA and they may be useful as model articles here.
  • I always think for an article about a television episode it is useful to have an introductory paragraph or two giving the major characters and any useful background For example, I believe the reason George is caught by his mother is that he still lives at home, right? Or the virgin character is introduced in the previous episode - put things like this into context for readers who do not know as much about the series or episode.
  • Since the episode itself does not use the word masturbate, I would use more quotations from the script/episode to convey the cleverness of the script here. For example, what does George say when he says he was caught? This is already done when Kramer's exit from the contest is described.
  • I would also mention "master of my domain" in the lead as it is a fairly common phrase now (see this New York Times Op Ed piece headline [1], for example).
  • Looking at the references, I was very surprised to see refs 21-25 are all to Wikipedia articles (and am amazed this passed GA with those refs). References to other episdoes should be referenced to the DVDs or other reliable sources. Please see WP:RS. It certainly would never get through FAC with these refs.
  • I think there had to have been some reviews of or commentary on the episode from 1992 (when it originally aried) that could be cited here.
  • I think more could be said about including a real person (JFK Jr.) as a character - was he the first real person used this way in the series (Steinbrenner was too, but later)? Also how they showed him (only his arm, not really him), plus reaction at the time.

Overall an informative article, but needs some work to reach FA. Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 11:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]