Wikipedia:Peer review/SS Cayuga/archive1

SS Cayuga

I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to get it to FA status. I would also like to know what could be done to improve its quality.

Thanks, GreatLakesShips 🤘 (talk - contribs) 16:01, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@GreatLakesShips: It has been over a month since this was posted. Are you still interested in receiving comments? If so, I suggest posting on the talk pages of related Wikiprojects. If not, can we close this PR? Z1720 (talk) 14:38, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: I've posted it at the WikiProject Ships talk page. GreatLakesShips 🤘 (talk - contribs) 14:21, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Fix the referencing. The proper way to disambiguate short-form referencing is to disambiguate the date, not the author so stuff like:

{{cite web |last = Berry (1) |first = Sterling |year = 2021 and {{sfnp|Berry (1)|2021}}

should be:

{{cite web |last=Berry |first=Sterling |date=2021a and {{sfnp|Berry|2021a}}

The reason for this is that {{cite web}}, and all of the other cs1|2 templates, are designed to support date disambiguation but not author-name disambiguation.

When I look at that Berry (1) source, the date 2021 is nowhere mentioned in that source. This seems to be common to web sources cited in this article. The proper 'date' to use is the publication date of the source if one is provided. For Berry, some sort of date is required – except 2 which isn't used in the article – but since none are available from the source and to support disambiguation, do this: |date=n.d.a, |date=n.d.c, etc. and {{sfnp|Berry|n.d.a}}, {{sfnp|Berry|n.d.c}}, etc.

Another common issue is |author= used to hold a name that isn't an author. Alpena County George N. Fletcher Public Library and Bowling Green State University are websites so:

delete |author=... and change |publisher=[[Alpena County George N. Fletcher Public Library]] to |website=[[Alpena County George N. Fletcher Public Library]] (same for Bowling green...)

For cites like Maritime History of the Great Lakes:

{{cite web |author = Maritime History of the Great Lakes |year = 1890 |title = Cayuga (Propeller), aground, 9 Apr 1890 |url = https://images.maritimehistoryofthegreatlakes.ca/59985/data?n=487 |access-date = August 1, 2021 |publisher = Maritime History of the Great Lakes |location = Ontario, Canada }}

Maritime History of the Great Lakes (1890). "Cayuga (Propeller), aground, 9 Apr 1890". Ontario, Canada: Maritime History of the Great Lakes. Retrieved August 1, 2021.

it is probably best to rewrite to something like this:

{{cite news |date=April 10, 1890 |title=A Steamer Ashore |newspaper=Buffalo Evening News |url=https://images.maritimehistoryofthegreatlakes.ca/59985/data?n=487 |access-date=August 1, 2021 |via=Maritime History of the Great Lakes |ref={{sfnref|''Buffalo Evening News''|1890}}}}

"A Steamer Ashore". Buffalo Evening News. April 10, 1890. Retrieved August 1, 2021 – via Maritime History of the Great Lakes.

with an accompanying short-form reference like this: {{sfnp|''Buffalo Evening News''|1890}} → Buffalo Evening News (1890)

(both with date disambiguation as needed)

No doubt there are other problems but this is a start...

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@GreatLakesShips: to ensure they saw the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: I'm a bit busy with school right now, but I'll sort it out during the weekend. GreatLakesShips 🤘 (talk - contribs) 19:53, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: Done. GreatLakesShips 🤘 (talk - contribs) 21:04, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

@GreatLakesShips: it has been over two months since the last comment. Is this ready to be closed, or are you waiting for more comments? Z1720 (talk) 02:04, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720: I don't think I need any more comments here. GreatLakesShips 🤘 (talk - contribs) 00:52, 2 January 2023 (UTC)