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Madagascar

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I'd like to get this article about Madagascar up to FA status (most likely passing through GA first) and have been working at it off and on for about a year. It was a mess earlier, with plenty of plagiarized and unsubstantiated content and a free-for-all in terms of respecting the MOS. I've made significant edits, changes to organization and structure, and revisions to references. I'm still polishing refs and adding a few details here and there but feel it's ready for a peer review, with particular attention to the depth and breadth of subject coverage for an FA-level country article. I've never done a country article before so would appreciate some experienced eyes looking this over. I'm also interested in maintaining objectivity in regards to Madagascar's political situation so some rewording may be necessary. Cheers, Lemurbaby (talk) 12:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

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• Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), there should be a non-breaking space -   between a number and the unit of measurement. For example, instead of 432 km, use 432 km, which when you are editing the page, should look like: 432 km.^[?]

I switched to the convert code, so this is automatic. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Fixed then. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 17:34, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), please spell out source units of measurements in text; for example, the Moon is 380,000 kilometres (240,000 mi) from Earth.^[?] Specifically, an example is 432 km.

However, the convert code keeps measurements abbreviated. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Fixed then with first. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 17:34, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings), headings generally should not repeat the title of the article. For example, if the article was Ferdinand Magellan, instead of using the heading ==Magellan's journey==, use ==Journey==.^[?]

In this case there's no avoiding it, since it's part of a proper name. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Fine.

• Per WP:WIAFA, this article's table of contents (ToC) may be too long – consider shrinking it down by merging short sections or using a proper system of daughter pages as per Wikipedia:Summary style.^[?]

I'll have a look at ways to shrink this. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Summary style should be used, especially as the size (228,830) is over 100 kb. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 17:34, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, summary style is being used as far as I understand it - if you see something that doesn't fit summary style please help me understand it better - but I think I'll leave the TOC for now since it's really on par with GA and FA level TOCs for other country articles. These bots don't always get it right. :) Lemurbaby (talk) 07:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• There are a few occurrences of weasel words in this article- please observe WP:AWT. Certain phrases should specify exactly who supports, considers, believes, etc., such a view.
  • is considered
  • might be weasel words, and should be provided with proper citations (if they already do, or are not weasel terms, please strike this comment).^[?]

Will go through it looking for these. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Please make the spelling of English words consistent with either American or British spelling, depending upon the subject of the article. Examples include: flavor (A) (British: flavour), honor (A) (British: honour), behavior (A) (British: behaviour), harbor (A) (British: harbour), neighbor (A) (British: neighbour), meter (A) (British: metre), organize (A) (British: organise), recognize (A) (British: recognise), criticise (B) (American: criticize), ization (A) (British: isation), isation (B) (American: ization), analyse (B) (American: analyze), leukemia (A) (British: leukaemia), enrollment (A) (British: enrolment), cosy (B) (American: cozy), program (A) (British: programme).

Will do in the morning. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• As done in WP:FOOTNOTE, footnotes usually are located right after a punctuation mark (as recommended by the CMS, but not mandatory), such that there is no space in between. For example, the sun is larger than the moon [2]. is usually written as the sun is larger than the moon.[2]^[?

Didn't see an instance of this problem. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Do not see either. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 17:34, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Dablinks

• Rio Tinto

Fixed Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Manual

• Google books should never be added, having only the title, and ISBN is good. URL must be reliable, google is not.

For other FA articles I was told to keep the Google book url but not to include the access date. Did the policy change? Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Accessdates should be added.

Where are they missing? Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

As your comments above, ignore this. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 17:34, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Copyediting is needed.

Already requested. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Good. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 17:34, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 13:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for these tips. Will you also be reviewing the article for the points I listed above (scope of coverage and objectivity) or will that be another reviewer? Cheers, Lemurbaby (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Someone else. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 22:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)