Wikipedia:Peer review/List of best-selling Latin albums in the United States/archive2
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I've listed this article for peer review because the last time I submitted this for PR, the list was only based on the RIAA certifications. The RIAA certifications were based on sales to retail stores as opposed to actual sales. Billboard just recently published the actual best-selling Latin albums since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking Latin records and I've made a major overhaul to the article to reflect on the list. I've based the article on List of best-selling albums in the United Kingdom which is FL (with permission from A Thousand Doors) and I need feedback to see if I can get this FL as well.
Thanks, Erick (talk) 18:45, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:16, 4 November 2017 (UTC) |
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Comments Thanks a lot for tagging me, Erick; I'll review the article. I think you've got a good list here, and it could well be worthy of becoming a FL with some changes.
A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 19:16, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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- @A Thousand Doors: That's odd, I thought I already centered them. Well no matter, I both centered the sales amount and removed the general from the references area. Erick (talk) 00:51, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Looks better. I've made a couple more changes; please revert if you disagree with them. I rewrote the start of the third paragraph, as you've already explained who the RIAA is in the opening sentence. I also thought that five notes would probably be enough for their own section, so I moved them down, with the added bonus that, now that they're split across two columns, there's less whitespace. Speaking of which, I think it might be worth replacing "Top Latin Albums chart peak" with simply "Chart peak", to reduce the width in that column and remove the whitespace. I also think it would worth rewriting the opening sentence of the fouth paragraph so that Luis Miguel himself is the subject, rather than Segundo Romance, e.g. "Luis Miguel was the first Latin artist to have two albums certified platinum, with Romance and Segundo Romance.", or something similar. Let me know your thoughts. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:16, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- @A Thousand Doors: That's odd, I thought I already centered them. Well no matter, I both centered the sales amount and removed the general from the references area. Erick (talk) 00:51, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Done I did what you suggested. Thanks again for your review! Erick (talk) 17:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Peer review by Esprit15d
editPer your request, I am currently reviewing the article.Esprit15d • talk • contribs 00:28, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
First off, once again, this is a solid article. A lot of attention has been paid to very detailed and tedious dates and statistics, which is worthy of commendation. It is very close to being reaching FL status. I've made non-controversial and/or grammar edits myself. These are my suggestions for your review:
- While many FLs don't bold the title like in featured articles (that is completely optional), the criteria indicate that the lead should 'introduce the subject and define the scope and inclusion criteria.' Articles should start with an overview and progress to more specific information. It is more essential in this article to clarify what makes an album a bestseller than what the best selling albums are. With that goal in mind, I moved the sentence starting "Since July 1993, ..." to the first sentence, so we even know what the article is talking about, and the sentence that begins "An album is eligible for recognition..." to establish what a Latin album is.
- The Spanish-language album titles should start with a capital letter and the rest of the words should be lowercase, per the Spanish language (except if the artist did something unconventional). The MOS states: "In titles of songs or albums in a language other than English, the project standard is to use the capitalization utilized by that language, not the English capitalization." I realize that this is odd since many of the articles do not conform to the MOS, unfortunately, and even the actual article titles are wrong, but the standards for a FL are higher, and should conform to the MOS. If it's not clear, I think most of these albums have articles in the Spanish Wikipedia, so you can click those articles to see how they are listed there.
- The picture is great, and the reference section is outstanding. A lot of times, that section is the canary in the coal mine, so great job there.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 01:32, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Esprit15d: Thanks for your feedback and thank you very much for making improvements to the article. In regards to the Spanish caps though, the last time I brought that up in a FLC, I got into major (see that FLC archive here. I really do not want to beat up a horse here. Nonetheless, as I've stated I appreciated the changes you made to the article. Erick (talk) 01:46, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- It makes me personally furious that people show disrespect for languages like this, but this is Wikipedia, and I learned a long time ago you have to pick you battles. Best wishes on the FL nom.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 01:49, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Esprit15d: Yeah...I try to avoid unnecessary drama on Wikipedia whenever I can. But that's beside the point. I am confident enough now to close this PR and begin the FLC. Thanks for the wishes! :) Erick (talk) 02:20, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- It makes me personally furious that people show disrespect for languages like this, but this is Wikipedia, and I learned a long time ago you have to pick you battles. Best wishes on the FL nom.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 01:49, 11 November 2017 (UTC)