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Kit (association football)

I wasn't even aware this article existed until I noticed a debate about how it should be titled on the football project's talk page last week. When I looked at it on Monday I was surprised by how feeble it was, so resolved to expand and improve it. It is now a few bytes short of ten times the length it was on Monday morning, but I'd appreciate comments on the usual spelling/grammar/MoS issues as well as whether there's any aspects of the topic I haven't covered.

Cheers! ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)

Firstly, Hell's teeth!!!. Great expansion job. Next, the comments and questions...

• Consider linking "knickerbockers" in the lead.
  •  Done
• Remove "The.." from your headings per WP:HEAD.
  •  Done
• Could mention position numbering, then squad numbering and names on kit in the lead as well.
  •  Done
• What about home and away kits as well, are they worthy of lead mention? Also the one-offs, such as Champions League finals shirts with the event embroidered into the shirts?
  •  Done - added home and away colours to the lead. I don't think one-off shirts should be mentioned in the lead, it might be worth one sentence in the main body of the article if I can find a source discussing the concept.....
• "huge amounts" - not that encyclopaedic, perhaps "significant amounts"?
  •  Done
• Don't like "Required (basic) equipment" as a heading - either basic or required, and explain in the section what you mean.
  •  Done - the slightly rubbish heading represented pretty much the only words left from before I started work on the article ;-)
• "(the Laws do not specify that studded boots need be worn)" - you're assuming we all think studs are specified. Perhaps a rephrase something like "...while most boots are studded (or bladed!), the Laws do not specify they are required..."
  •  Done
• Are logos ever present on the arms or is that just the "Premier league" logo?
  • I can't find any reference to clubs with sponsor logos on sleeves. Refs have it of course, I may drop in a mention of this........
• Not necessarily the right place for it in this article but there has been some controversy over the use of the blades, injuries etc. Worth a mention?
  •  Done
• I've heard repeatedly of players being encouraged to wear boots one size too small for that "special touch" which has resulted in chronic foot damage. Again, worth a mention if you can cite it?
  • I've not heard of this personally but I'll look into it.....
    • I found this - starter for ten I suppose... The Rambling Man (talk) 09:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
      •  Done - I've never cited The Society of Chiropodists and Podiatrists before :-)
• Are players prohibited from wearing gloves in warm weather? (you know what I mean, from your phrase...!)
  •  Done
• Didn't Davids wear the goggles because of glaucoma? Probably worth distinguishing that it wasn't a fashion choice...
  •  Done
• Match officials - international ref's have worn yellow quite a bit...
  • I'll keep looking, but thus far have not been able to find a reliable source for this point......
    • Still can't find any actual reference to this, but have dropped in a picture of Howard Webb reffing in yellow, dunno if that helps at all.....
• "This prevents confusion and wild attempts to wrest the ball from your neighbour." - I love this.
  • those wacky Victorians.... :-)
• "heavy hobnailed boots" in the caption - proof?
  •  Done - changed it
• Who's the loser in the cap hanging onto Cascarino's left hand?! And yes, very short shorts!
  • I actually sponsored those shorts either that season or the season before. It took me ages to save up the £10 from my pocket money......
• Hmm, this may be anecdotal but what about the Man Utd grey strip (allegedly designed to be good with blue denim) which they wore for a half against Southampton (I think) going down 3-0 at half time, changing into a different strip and, still losing, at least got a goal back in the second half?
  •  Done
• Last ref [53] needs the space before it removing.
  •  Done

Very good read, I really enjoyed it. Let me know if I can be of further (assuming this was some...) use...! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

• Excellent comments as ever, I'll address the rest later..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

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• Optional tangent you could also include a note about Paralympic football in relation to other equipment, where partially sighted/blind players must wear eyeshades or blindfolds (from [1])
  • Eye patches in both eyes (these shall be optional in the case of players with prosthetic eyes).
  • Blindfolds made of an absorbent material and with padding on the front and on the parietal zone.
• PD pic of this at Image:Football 5 Parapan 2007 Final.jpg 86.21.74.40 (talk) 09:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)