Funkstörung edit
This one has mostly been written by me. Some sections seem slightly fan-ish, so it'd be great to get some outside views on it. I think it's fairly complete, but if you can think of anything missing I'd be glad to add it. I might take it to FAC if there are no major points raised, but it's probably much too short right now to stand a chance. So, what do you think? -- grm_wnr Esc 00:07, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
- Good work, but way too short. Try looking at some featured articles on similar topics[1] for ideas on what could be added. More specifically, the intro paragraph needs to be more explicit as to what Funkstörung is and why its important.-- Rmrfstar
- I heartily agree on the "what Funkstörung is" part. I found this article while browsing randomly (I'd never heard of Funkstörung before), and after having read the article, I still don't know what Funkstörung is. You call them "producers". In my experience, this refers to executive types who supervise the business of music production, distribution, sales, and promotion, as opposed to the artists/musicians who actually create the music. But then you call them a "band" later. In their discography, you don't list other musicians, implying that they are the musicians, but then earlier, you say, "their portfolio including top-level artists such as ...", as if they only supervise others who actually make the music. Sorry to sound so negative, but I really can't figure out what role they play in music. — Nowhither 04:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- A more nitpicking point: You list two alternate spellings for "Funkstörung", imdicating that "Funkstorung" is common and "Funkstoerung" is rare. However, "oe" is the standard way to represent the German "ö" in plain-old-ASCII, while just "o" is typically what is used by people who don't understand German spelling & accents. So I find your comment on the alternative spellings rather odd. — Nowhither 05:02, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- Well, producer is a standard term for an electronic music artist (as opposed to a DJ), because they often do not work with other musicians at all. I've added a (short, hopefully soon to be expanded) section on that to record producer (I linked to it without checking it out properly, sorry about that). It may be confusing, but that's the way it is. A band is any musical group, which may be a group of "producers". As for the portfolio, it is a portfolio of their work as remixers, which is an activity that turns producers (in the electronic music meaning) to producers (in the non-electronic meaning). As for the spelling, although "oe" is the usual variant for spelling "ö" in standard ASCII, they choose to use the simple "o" variant in all context where "ö" is not an option, for aesthetic reasons I guess. See their website, for example. But your comments are noted (and welcomed) and I will try to find a way to adress them. -- grm_wnr Esc 21:23, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- P.S. Quick google test:
- funkstoerung: 650 hits
- funkstorung: 115.000 hits
- funkstörung: 82.800 hits
- And yes, they are really called Funkstörung, no need to move the article... -- grm_wnr Esc 21:33, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- P.S. Quick google test:
- Well, producer is a standard term for an electronic music artist (as opposed to a DJ), because they often do not work with other musicians at all. I've added a (short, hopefully soon to be expanded) section on that to record producer (I linked to it without checking it out properly, sorry about that). It may be confusing, but that's the way it is. A band is any musical group, which may be a group of "producers". As for the portfolio, it is a portfolio of their work as remixers, which is an activity that turns producers (in the electronic music meaning) to producers (in the non-electronic meaning). As for the spelling, although "oe" is the usual variant for spelling "ö" in standard ASCII, they choose to use the simple "o" variant in all context where "ö" is not an option, for aesthetic reasons I guess. See their website, for example. But your comments are noted (and welcomed) and I will try to find a way to adress them. -- grm_wnr Esc 21:23, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- Regarding "producer": Interesting; I'd never run across that usage before. Rewriting as "IDM musicians (producers)", along with the comment in the record producer article settles things nicely, though. Regarding ö/oe/o: So much for linguistic purity. Alas! But if The People Have Spoken, then I guess we have to live with it. — Nowhither 01:10, 14 August 2005 (UTC)