Wikipedia:Peer review/Fernão Mendes Pinto/archive1

Fernão Mendes Pinto edit

I believe this is article has did very well, and is well referenced. There is one more reference(online),that I guess would be considered a note(?) from the top but other than that its completely referenced. I'll add it soon. The introduction is long enough for the article. Falphin 15:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have enough time today to thoroughly read the article but I'll give you a few token comments to show that you're not being ignored :). The references need to be formatted correctly using the templates which have been created for this purpose, eg. {{Book reference}}. The article also appears to be an extensive biography without sections on his legacy and following... I hope that helps. --Oldak Quill 13:34, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, I am waiting for a response from Kaisershatner about the references. I started a section(will need copyediting) on his legacy. I'm not sure what you mean by following though. Do you want me to write a section on the events taking place directly after his life? Thanks again. Falphin 00:41, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I think you were right that many of the "references" should be "further reading." Kaisershatner 16:10, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

- - I wasn't clear. What I meant by following is have there been any art works created in his honour since (statues, etc.)? That kind of thing. --Oldak Quill 11:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Not that I know of. Just the crater on Mars, an intermediate school in Almada, Portugal. [1]. I could possibly make a trivia section in prose adding that Pinto translates to "Young Chicken" in English. Falphin 01:24, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Early life" and "Legacy" are too short, especially compared to the others. There are many ultra-short paragraphs here and at least one-sentence paragraphs here. I don't know - could use some longer sections other than "Voyage"... Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 22:08, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is not much is known about his early life. Everything on the net is already in there. I can expand legacy by perhaps including more information about each individual legacy although most of it will be a repeat of stuff already in there. Falphin 22:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- After some digging I found something interesting, [2]. I also got his recounts of his early life from the website.

"Do I thus start my peregrination with a mention to what I endured in this kingdom [of Portugal], where I lived up to ten or twelve years in the misery and stinginess of my father’s house at Montemor-o-Velho. An uncle of mine – maybe willing to provide me a better fortune – took me to the city of Lisbon and enlisted me at the service of a Lady of noble generation and illustrious parentage. He certainly though this could bring the fruit he envisioned to me, if we consider the quality of the Lady and her family … Hellas, my uncle’s expectations didn’t succeed according to his plans, quite the contrary. After no more than one year and a half at the service of this Lady, I found myself involved in events that subjected my life to such a risk that, to save me, I had to rush from that house and fly away as fast as I could. Such was my fear that I noticed not where I headed, like one that saw death in the eyes and carried her close behind. Eventually I reached a quarry and was accepted in a caravela from Alfama I found ready to sail carrying the horses and goods that a nobleman was sending to Setubal …Next morning, while sailing across Sesimbra, we were boarded by a French privateer that ditched some fifteen or twenty men into our carvel with no resistance or contradiction by our men. In no time did he empty our boat of all its contents – valued at more than six thousand cruzados – and sunk it. The French pirate headed to Larache where he aimed to sell weapons to the moors, and took the seventeen of us that survived the attack, tied in feet and arms … One night he ordered [us] to be thrown into the beach of Melides, naked and barefoot, some with countless sores from the scourges they were offered, and in that garb we went the day after into Santiago do Cacem … My pour self with six or seven other no less destitute than me, went to Setubal where it befell my luck to be taken by a fidalgo of the Master of Santiago whom I served for the next four years upon whish he handled me to the Master of Santiago whom I served as chamberlain the following year and a half. And since the accommodation then in usage at the houses of the princes was not enough to my sustenance, I decided to board to India, offered to any venture, good or bad, that would happen to me." Falphin 20:38, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]