Wikipedia:Peer review/Empire of Brazil/archive1
Empire of Brazil edit
I'm looking to elevate this article about Brazil to Featured article status. I believe it is well-developed and comprising. It was written mainly by 172, a declared historian. Notice that, although some topics may appear relatively short, it's because there's a main article on the given topic, so the information is not entirely on this article (necessary, for it is already 42 kilobytes long). Redux 02:02, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The article needs footnotes/sources, the lead section might needs to be expanded and some might complain the WP:TOC might be a bit long. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:05, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- As I said, the article was mainly written by 172, a historian. An older version of his user page (prior to his departure from Wikipedia) indicates that he might have written it from memory (he might teach about that). It would be unseemly that a historian would skip footnotes/sources if he had consulted books and such in order to write the article. This is, of course, my impression. Redux 02:28, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Great article! Footnotes would be valuable but there are plenty of articles on Wikipedia that lack them. One problem is the total absence of sources or at least references/resources. --Briangotts 02:47, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- As I said in my previous comment, I do believe that 172 wrote the bulk of the article from memory. There are some figures there, but since he's a historian and, if my memory serves me well, a professor, he could too have remembered them by heart. Redux 02:52, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- That won't matter, potentially controversial statements should be specifically sourced, and there should be references. As a historian, I'm sure he's read some books/papers on the subject to get his information, and it should be no problem to find them again. "Remembered by heart," however accurate, is not enough. (I realize he's left; if he can't be contacted for this purpose then someone will probably have to find a reference that covers the information.) Christopher Parham (talk) 05:03, 2005 Jun 27 (UTC)
- I've already left a message in 172's talk page, since he said he'd check it out every now and then. No way to know if he'll respond to the request though. How big an obstacle would the lack of sources/references be for the article to be featured? Redux 05:19, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Having sources cited is a formal requirement for an article to be Featured. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:20, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- And for those who are not familiar with the Featured Article requirements, please see Wikipedia:What_is_a_featured_article. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:25, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've already left a message in 172's talk page, since he said he'd check it out every now and then. No way to know if he'll respond to the request though. How big an obstacle would the lack of sources/references be for the article to be featured? Redux 05:19, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- That won't matter, potentially controversial statements should be specifically sourced, and there should be references. As a historian, I'm sure he's read some books/papers on the subject to get his information, and it should be no problem to find them again. "Remembered by heart," however accurate, is not enough. (I realize he's left; if he can't be contacted for this purpose then someone will probably have to find a reference that covers the information.) Christopher Parham (talk) 05:03, 2005 Jun 27 (UTC)
Excellent news! 172 has responded to my post on his talk page. He said that he will be adding the references in the next few days. Redux 1 July 2005 15:46 (UTC)