Cichlid edit
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I've listed this article for peer review because…
Several authors have worked towards getting the cichlid article to WP:GA status and I think it's in a good position to be nominated and assessed as a WP:FA. I would like a peer-reviewer to look over the article and provide some feedback as a pre-assessment for WP:FA nomination.
Thanks, MidgleyDJ (talk) 12:11, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Comments from Ealdgyth (talk · contribs)
- You said you wanted to know what to work on before taking to FAC, so I looked at the sourcing and referencing with that in mind. I reviewed the article's sources as I would at FAC.
- Generally galleries are frowned on at FAC.
- http://www.abc.net.au/farnorth/stories/s1313845.htm deadlinked (current ref 16)
- Okay, I've never run across http://filaman.uni-kiel.de/ this source before. What makes it a reliable source?
- Looks like current ref 43 the IUCN Red List of threatented Species has some formatting glitches. I'd fix, but have no clue what it should look like.
- Current refs 46 DeSilva S. S. .. has a bald link in the ref. Links should be formatted with titles. Same for current ref 52 Smith P. F.
- Is http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/show_article.php?article_id=331 from a website for a magazine? Note I'm not a fish person, so utterly unfamiliar with fish magazines. (current ref 54)
- Current ref 55 www.aquafriend.com is given me a "get this domain name now" page...
- http://www.africancichlids.net/articles/neolamprologus_brichardi/ doesn't load. (current ref 39)
- Current refs 56, 57, 58 look like they are supposed to be newspaper articles. Maybe use {{news}} to format them correctly. (The title of the article would be in quotation marks, the newspaper should be in italics, etc.)
- Same goes for a number of other refs, the titles aren't in quotation marks, which makes it difficult to see what is the title.
- Hope this helps. Please note that I don't watchlist Peer Reviews I've done. If you have a question about something, you'll have to drop a note on my talk page to get my attention. (My watchlist is already WAY too long, adding peer reviews would make things much worse.) 15:16, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Ruhrfisch comments: Very briefly, here are some suggestions for improvement. If you want more comments, please ask here.
- I would have the lead be more accessible and less detailed, and the article have more information and details - for example, swap this from the lead As a group, cichlids exhibit a similarly wide diversity of body shapes, ranging from strongly laterally compressed species (such as Altolamprologus, Pterophyllum, and Symphysodon) through to species that are cylindrical and highly elongate (such as Julidochromis, Teleogramma, Teleocichla, Crenicichla, and Gobiocichla).[4] with this from the Anatomy and appearance section Cichlids have a great variability in body shape, ranging from compressed and disc-shaped (such as Symphysodon) to elongate and cylindrical (such as Crenicichla ).[13] See WP:LEAD
- I know these are in the semi-automated review too, but FAC really frowns on inconsistent spelling (British vs American English) and image galleries (if they are on Commons, {{commonscat}} works well)
- The list of 220 Genera will also likely be a bone of contention at FAC - why not make a list of Cichlid genera and get an FL too? Could also put some of the images in it.
- Provide context for the reader - see WP:PCR. For example, A distinctively shaped otolith. I know otolith is linked, but perhaps adding "a structure in the inner ear" would help. I also note this is a list and may need to be converted to prose for FAC.
Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm a big fan of cichlids after I did my undergraduate thesis on the taxonomy of a Lake Malawi genus. I hope to see this featured in the future. Anyhoo...
- Extinction - if memory serves the hybridization of some lake Victoria species caused a few extinctions and was caused by reduced water clarity breaking down isolating mechanisms amongst closely related species. Deserves a mention I feel. Given that the extinction of the Lake Victoria cichlids is the largest mass extinction in recent history, the whole section may be worth expanding a little and should be mentioned in the lead. It is worth hunting down threats to add Nile Perch to Malawi and Tanganyka as well, as this would increase the level of distaster.
- You mention sexual dimorphism in the gallery but not in the Anatomy and appearance section, in fact no mention is made there of the many gaudy colours. The treatement of the types of shape is rather superficial as well.
- Range and habitat - habitat, you mention some brackish habitat species, but since mosts species are freshwater a bit more of a mention of the types of freshwater? There are river species, pond species, pelagic species (it was pelagic ones I studied, pretty cool for freshwater reall!). This ties into appearance and diet as well.
- Mating system - is kind of short, could just get merged into the main section, possibly at the top.
- I'll have another look soon but that should give you a bit to work with now. I hope it helps, and I'm glad someone is working on this. Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)