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I've listed this article for peer review because I intend to nominate it at FAC in the near future. I believe it meets all the criteria, but it always helps to have fresh eyes looking over what I've done. This article is the ~~fifth~~ sixth in a planned series of ~~five~~ six about the major-minor streams of Portland, Oregon. All suggestions are welcome.

Thanks, Finetooth (talk) 19:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhrfisch comments: I think this looks very good - thanks for your work on it. As requested, here are some suggestions for improvement, pretty much nitpicks.

Per WP:LEAD the lead should not be more than four paragraphs, but this is five. I think the 4th and 5th paragraphs could possibly be combined.
Course - I really like the Mount Hood picture, but it looks like it is very slightly rotated about 1 degree clockwise. I can try to fix it if you want.
I think I would make it clearer if Bull Run Lake is a natural lake, or man-made - I know that some natural lakes then have dams added to control the water. I thought it was natural, then the note mentioned the dam, so I was not sure - I see this is later clarified in Geology, but something earlier would help.
This is a bit unclear (the two roads on the left part) Below Reservoir 2, Forest Road 10 (Waterworks Road) is on the river's right bank, and Forest Road 14 and further downstream, Forest Road 183, is on the left.
Would this Southeast Camp Namanu Road runs roughly parallel to the river and to its right from here to the mouth. be clearer as something like Southeast Camp Namanu Road runs roughly parallel to the river along its right bank from here to the mouth.
Why is December spelled out, but Oct. abbreviated in The maximum flow at this station was 24,800 cubic feet per second ...?
Discharge I would link acre feet as it is an unusual unit
First peoples would it be clearer to add "native" here for clarity In the 19th century, this trail network linked the [native] trading center at Wascopam...
Calling it a night - more soon

Hope this helps. I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I'm calling it a night too, but I'll begin using your suggestions to improve the article later this weekend. Thanks for the offer to fix the tilt; I can do that, but I don't always see the tilt with my naked eye, and I forgot to check the image against a grid. Finetooth (talk) 04:45, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are very welcome. The image is lovely and is only very slightly tilted - for some reason tilt is one of those things I usually see right away. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 13:52, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hydroelectric projects I had to read the diversion dam on the Little Sandy River secntence multiple times before I was clear on what was going on. I think part of it was being tired, but I also am used to a stream named "Little X" being a tributary of stream "X", so I kept thinking that water was somehow being diverted from the Sandy River or its trib back up to the power plant. I wonder if some sort of addition to the sentence might help (or if I am just hopelessly dense). Perhaps something like The project included a powerhouse on the Bull Run River at RM 1.5 (RK 2.4), and a diversion dam on [one of its largest tributaries,] the Little Sandy River, ...
I also wondered if the location of the powerhouse should be included on the watershed map? Not sure on this one.
Need to add PGE after first use, of Portland General Electric, so In 1913, the PRL&P, (the predecessor of Portland General Electric, or PGE), ...
Logging Would it be clearer to list the closed roads first in By autumn 2008, they were dismantling 63 miles (101 km) of roads, had closed another 78 miles (126 km), and were removing 245 culverts.[40] so something like By autumn 2008, they had closed 78 miles (126 km) of roads, were dismantling another 63 miles (101 km), and were removing 245 culverts.[40]
Watershed Is "its" clear here? Would "watershed" work better? The confluence of the Bull Run and Sandy rivers at Dodge Park, about 20 miles (32 km) east of downtown Portland,[16] marks its western (downstream) end, while on the east it borders Hood River County, ...
I understand giving miles, but shouldn't there also be a metric conversion in Elevations within the watershed range from 4,750 feet (0.90 mi) at Buck Peak ...
River mile (RM) was already explained in the Course section, so probably not needed here
I would make it clearer that the small streams are tribs of the Columbia, not the Bull Run, in Small streams, each with a subwatershed bordering the Bull Run watershed, flow north from the ridge between the Bull Run and Columbia rivers.
Flora and fauna I think I would make it clearer that the headworks dam is now Dam 2 Native fish species include Chinook and Coho Salmon, Steelhead Trout, Cutthroat Trout, Pacific Lamprey, and Rainbow Trout,[59] but since 1922 the headworks dam has blocked anadromous fish passage to the upper river and its tributaries.[29]

Looks very good - please let me know when this is at FAC and I will gladly support. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 13:52, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for all of these suggestions and for your kind words. I will work on these over the next few days. Finetooth (talk) 17:31, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All done, I think. I tilted the lake photo one degree counterclockwise and added the community of Bull Run to the watershed map; that's where the power plant is (was). You are right about the Sandy and Little Sandy confusion; I tweaked the prose as you suggested to make this more clear. All of your other suggestions were good ones, and I've changed the text accordingly. Thanks again. Finetooth (talk) 16:10, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]