Wikipedia:Peer review/Bobby Fischer/archive1

Bobby Fischer

I think this is a wonderfully detailed, facually accurate, and NPOV article on an important and controversial cultural celebrity. --Malathion 28 June 2005 09:14 (UTC)

I'm not sure about having an article on him, and then a separate page on his biography. From the looks of it, it seems there is just too much stuff. Not even Presidents or Popes get two pages just to tell their biography. Fischer may have been a good chess player and a controversial figure at times, but this article needs to be greatly condensed - take no mercy! - unless he suddenly becomes President, Pope and the guy in the Batman suit all at once. Harro5 June 28, 2005 11:34 (UTC)

Agreed, the two pages should be merged and condensed. Having a single 50kb article is less of a problem than forcing readers to choose between two arbitrarily divided ones. - SimonP June 28, 2005 15:00 (UTC)

I think the article was originally split up because it was overlong! Your point is taken, but for the sake of devils advocacy: Are you sure it is a good idea to delete such a massive amount of good prose (as would be required to merge two already long articles) if most of that prose is actually relevant to his story?

I think the Sousse, 1967 section could be axed entirely without damaging the flow of the article. --Malathion 28 June 2005 19:30 (UTC)

I really cannot stand the fact that this guy has two articles. I'm sorry, but no one is that worthy on Wikipedia - Bobby's the only person I've ever with two articles to discuss what is essentially just events in his life. This has to be cut down, and I feel no one can claim improvements have been made via this peer review unless there is just one nice, concise article at the end. End of rant. Thanks. Harro5 July 3, 2005 09:59 (UTC)

Sorry that you are taking it so personally. ;) I am planning to combine the two articles within the next couple of days. --Malathion 3 July 2005 10:10 (UTC)

Done and done. The articles are merged. Is there anything else that could be improved? --Malathion 4 July 2005 04:39 (UTC)

Thank you Malathion, I might even consider giving you a Barnstar for saving me from ranting on any more about there being two articles. It looks very good now, and is very interesting. Most importantly, having one article allows the reader to see every major event Fischer has been involved in. Previously, the reader would have read about a champion chess player, and not realised how out of the mainstream his political views are. Well done, this should head to FAC after another week or two on peer review. Harro5 July 4, 2005 23:53 (UTC)

I find it hard to believe that he only made two chess contributions (innovations). Surely he developed some opening or line. What about his effect ont he style of the game? I tto find the destinction between the two arbitrary. This link is Broken 28 June 2005 15:26 (UTC)

Yes, that section needs to be expanded. I'll add something about Fischer's massive contributions to opening theory in the Sicilian. --Malathion 28 June 2005 19:30 (UTC)

Good work with the merge, you could even replace some of the removed content as it is currently only 24kb. To get it to FA status the lead should be somewhat longer. Another problem is that ==Fischer in popular culture== is too short to justify its own section. It should either be expanded, merged into another section, or deleted.- SimonP July 6, 2005 01:00 (UTC)