Wikipedia:Peer review/Amphibians of Australia/archive1

Amphibians of Australia edit

This article obviously needs a bit more work, but I'm stumped for what else to include in it. The photos column should be filled up if possible, but that will be very hard, unless I can find free licence images some were else on the net. The article looks pretty good and has a good format, but probably needs a copyedit and spell check etc. I want it to become featured but don't really know if it should be a featured list or article. Froggydarb 09:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, Andy _t 00:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The table is good, but perhaps you could specify how many species in each genus instead of or as well as how many in each family? Sabine's Sunbird talk 01:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is that alright? Froggydarb 07:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's much better. Sabine's Sunbird talk
I'd like to learn more about the causal connection between these species and the fact that they are found in Australia. Fossil evidence? Impact of human invasion of Oz? There seem to be a small number of areas where there are no frogs; again, why? What patterns can we see in the distribution of various taxa? Is the Cane Toad the only introduced species? Should this information go in the lead? What about islands? What about the relationship to other special fauna of Oz (snakes, goannas, herons etc.)? Are there predominantly aquatic frogs? If not, is this to do with the presence of crocodiles? The article doesn't yet feel comprehensive, but it's looking good, and I'm sure with 8 to 12 weeks more work, could be an FA. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 13:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that is really helpful info. However I'm not sure that there is a casual connection between Australian amphibian species, except that they are all in the same suborder. There are so many different types of habitats that Oz frogs inhabit there isn't really any connection. Froggydarb 23:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There needs to be information on things like the relationship between the Australian amphibian species, and others around the world. E.g. the relationship between the Myobatrachids from Australia and the Sooglosids from the Seychelle Islands. Or the relationships between the Austrlaian Hylids and Microhylids and the rest of the Hylids and Microhylids. Why New Zealand has primitive frogs and Australia doesn't, even though they were once connected. The very close connection to New Guinea, and the geological causes for this. Why there are no salamanders or caecillians in Australia etc. A lot of this I still don't know about, so I want to help to expand my knowledge, however it is pretty complicated and I need some good resources for it. --liquidGhoul 01:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "relationship". Froggydarb 04:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With the Myobatrachids and Sooglosids, I mean they are closely related. They were almost placed within the same family, but were seperated (can't remember why, I think it was just geography). They are closely related, and it helps to define the origins of the families and species. Knowing the relationships between the Australian Hylids and Microhylids, and those around the world helps to define the origin of the Austrlian Hylids and Microhylids. Same with the one Ranid, if it is more closely related to the Asian Ranids than the American, African or European, then Asia is, most likely, the origin of that frog (though it is simple with this species, it is much more complicated with the others). It is important to know how and where we got our frogs from. They may have evolved here, or moved from another area (and if this is the case, which area?). --liquidGhoul 05:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It also wouldn't hurt to link to concepts such as phylogeography when discussing the above. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 07:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]