Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at Criteria for speedy deletion/Circeus
Circeus edit
My first batch was done early this week as QcHistSci (talk · contribs). I created Ernest Rouleau and Joseph-Alexandre Crevier. Both received cursory checks from Shawn in Montreal (talk · contribs). In the first case a category was added (category:French Quebecers), in the second, the tags {{expand}} and {{wikify}} (neither of which, to be honest, I believe to be appropriate). A blatant misspelling ("pneumony") and links to disambiguation pages were ignored, and "category:French Quebecers" was not added to the second case. No stub templates were added.
Overall I suspect these articles did not attract attention because they were too good looking (despite a rather broad claim in the Crevier article). The edits came only three days later, probably as part of some article list review (I suspect something from AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs)). I felt a bit ignored, but in a neutral not-doing-anything-bad way.
The second batch, made as the more French Le quotidien (talk · contribs) and composed of more contemporary media-type personalities, was far more interesting. In both cases where I had included a year, it was mistakenly done as 1997, not 1993 (accidental, actually, but an interesting test).
- Simonne Monet-Chartrand was noted by Vejvančický (talk · contribs) within ten minutes. It was wikified, the category fixed, and a reference added. He also added a DEFAULTSORT and project templates (which even I don't do too often). I think this one is quite impressive given the rather thin claim to notability. Most likely the existence of an article on fr: helped. He also template-welcomed me with a extra comment adding my sources.
- Michel Noël was tagged under {{db-a7}} by Michaelkourlas (talk · contribs) after 14 minutes via Twinkle (with assorted automatic message). This is actually quite sensible given the one-sentence blurb I used. Seven minutes later, Vejvančický added an interwiki, followed 12 minutes later by Graeme Bartlett (talk · contribs), who declined the speedy, wikified the article and added a references. The both of them polished the article into a much better stub.
- Doris Lussier was slightly more developed, including a dubious wording ("was very involved in the struggle for sovereignty of Quebec."). In three minutes AlexandrDmitri (talk · contribs) marked it with {{BLPunsourced}}, but immediately noticed the mistake and switched to {{unreferenced}}. Snigbrook (talk · contribs) then took the article under his wing and, although not changing a word on my text, turned it into a nice wikified and referenced stub (though he left the unreferenced template and added a {{citation needed}}). He was the only one who extended the categories beyond those I had put in.
In retrospect, I wonder what the result would have been if I had used "Simone" and "Noel" instead.
Overall this was a much more interesting "baptism of fire" which would have introduced a complete newbie to wikitext, and the welcome was nice. Mind you, I'm Asperger, so my reactions to these things are not necessarily representative. I intend to revisit the articles in 2010 for the WikiCup. Circéus (talk) 21:54, 15 November 2009 (UTC)