Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at Criteria for speedy deletion/Angr

Angr's experience edit

I created two articles under two different names: Kheew created Antony (Khrapovitsky) of Kiev, and User:Intaritul created Jean Palaprat. The only thing that happened to either article was that Antony (Khrapovitsky) of Kiev got patrolled one minute after creation: Jean Palaprat is still unpatrolled, neither article was tagged for anything at all, neither article was cleaned up or wikified or touched at all by anyone. And neither newbie was welcomed. So my newbies don't feel bitten, but neither do they feel welcome, or feel like anyone cares about these articles at all.

During the past week, I have also done a lot of new page patrolling, which I previously virtually never did, because I wanted to see what it was like being on the other end. And I've learned that new page patrolling is hard. You can't just open ten tabs at a time and zip through the pages. First you have to decide whether or not the article is speediable, which often means Googling a few select phrases of the text to see if it's a copyvio. If it isn't one, and if the article isn't otherwise speediable, the hard part begins. That's when you have to do at least some cursory wikification, grammar corrections often as not, and you have to search for at least a few external links to add so the article is at least somewhat verifiable. When you've committed yourself to patrolling a new page, you have to count on it taking up to as much as half an hour per article! So WP:NEWT has given me not only new sympathy for newbies, but also new respect for NPPers. +Angr 20:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]