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The result of the debate was: 

Deleted.  Fails NFCC#8, significance - none objecting. WilyD 12:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:James Dougherty and Marilyn Monroe.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Non-free image of a living person. -Nv8200p talk 01:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:251-Col. Cumbie.embedded.prod affiliate.56.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Geo Swan (notify | contribs).
  • Image used to illustrate a living person, but fair use is claimed (thus, fails WP:NFCC#1. Also, source url is not working. Also, it looks like an official PD image, but I couldn't figure out a valid source. Damiens.rf 18:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Information -- I agree that this looks like an official USAF photo. I've sent an email to the Miami Herald's online editor asking if their online photo editor will agree to confirm, via OTRS, that the image was an official USAF photo. Geo Swan (talk) 00:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I heard back from the online editor.
    1. She may not understand that all the work of US Federal employee is in the public domain.
    2. Her first message said: "If there was no credit line I wouldn't be able to figure it out at this point but I can tell you all our photos from guantanamo are either shot by a staff member or handout."
    3. I sent her a URL to the picture, and she confirmed that it was not a Miami Herald picture.
  • I would be very surprised if this were not an airforce publicity photo. Protonk (talk) 23:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Muhammad Assad, a Yemeni who was held by the CIA.jpg

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Image:WaPo Bubble Bench.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Frothy (notify | contribs).
  • There's a huge rationale written for this non-free image, but it still fails to explain how we're not competing with (at least) washington post's website by copying their image to ours (WP:NFCC#2), and why is this image necessary understanding that there was "a large number of unsold condominiums during the bubble" WP:NFCC#8 (it's surely a good illustration, but hardly something that passes the "minimal use" requirement. Damiens.rf 19:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • If the bench is still there, this image is replaceable. Since it's a recent article, I'd wager that's true. Delete. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 20:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: delete. License from web site does not meet Wikipedia requirements for a free image. -Nv8200p talk 01:46, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Wrong licensing. Permission ""to freely copied to other sites as long as credit is given to this blog" is not the same as permission to "to copy, distribute and transmit the work; to adapt the work;" Damiens.rf 19:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Geoeye's licensing is actually non-commercial and non-derivs. Damiens.rf 19:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete- there are a number of lines in the licensing terms that seem to contradict its free-ish initial sentence. For example: "Imagery may not be sold, distributed, or reproduced in any form without express permission from GeoEye." and also, "Any other use of materials—including resale, distribution, or reproduction, or for purposes other than as noted above—without the prior written permission of GeoEye is strictly prohibited." A free-er alternative source must be found for this sort of material. -Seidenstud (talk) 15:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Some of the items in the image exhibit an artistic or decorative aspect that can be conceptually separated from their utilitarian function; whereas, the aesthetic forms of cars in a parking lot are inseparable from their function as a utilitarian object. This makes these items eligible for copyright protection without any visible markings required. Current U. S. copyright law says that copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. Someone, somewhere can claim copyright to these items, as none of the items show signs of age to indicate they were created before 1923. The image may meet fair use requirements, but it cannot be considered a free image by Wikipedia standards because of the copyrighted elements that are central to the image. -Nv8200p talk 01:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Halloween_Decorations.jpg

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Image:Halloween_Decorations.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Willjay (notify | contribs).
  • Derivative work. No evidence uploader owns rights to any of the objects in the picture. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 19:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image is not Derivative work any more than is an image of different brands of cars in a parking lot is derivative. This is a random array of Halloween-related items in a store window for which there is no apparent rights holder but the uploader. It is a perfectly valid image. Willjay (talk) 15:09, 2 September 2008
  • Not derivative. The setting is actually is relevant: Had this particular display been created by a manufacturer to sell a product line, or had this specific display been copyrighted by a specific creator, publishing a photograph of it could be edging toward infringement. it is none of the above. Secondly, a company actually does not hold exclusive rights to create or publish photographs of their manufactured items for artistic or instructional purposes. if they did, any photograph that prominently features a manufactured product assumed to be under copyright would be a derivative work: (i.e., street scenes showing different brands of cars; photographs of billboards or advertisements showing products; or photographs of individuals wearing apparel such as t-shirts featuring a brand image.) Third, there is no evidence that any items in this view is even under copyright--that is the assumption of the person raising the objection. There are no identifiable brand names visible, no visible copyright symbols; no evidence of the country of origin; no evidence of the date of manufacture. For all we know, these items could have been created 80 years ago and in public domain. All tallied, the "derivative works" label simply does not fit--the image and associated license are perfectly valid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willjay (talk • contribs) 22:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Billboards and t-shirts are derivative works. And without information demonstrating the manufacturer's copyright on these items hasn't expired we have no way of fully ascertaining the license status. It's equally hard to tell where this picture was taken, and we have only your claim that it was through a shop window. It's not a very good picture and is easily replaceable with a free image of a pumpkin or a witch, so this discussion is already somewhat moot. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 16:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The argument is about whether or not one individual claiming Derivative Works should be able to get somebody else's contribution pulled from the site, so it's hardly moot. Per article content, this image illustrates a variety of different kinds of Halloween iconography as well as showing an example of their commercial applications in the United States. A simple image of a pumpkin or a witch (assuming the creator "proved" s/he had permission of the pumpkin carver and witch to create, post and license the image) would not demonstrate the same points in the same way. And again, the question was whether --photographs-- of manufactured items in this context count as derivative works, which they simply do not. If Wikipedia is going to remain a robust and engaging encyclopedia, article contributors will need the freedom to post images that occasionally feature manufactured products without fearing groundless accusations of infringement. And since all Wikipedia images depend on the "word" of their creators for licensing, it seems that tolerating the uncertain origins of some images is an assumed risk of visiting or administering the site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willjay (talk • contribs) 04:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let's also try the following litmus test related to some issues surrounding "Fair use".

1. What is the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit education purposes? It's art, it's currently being distributed for educational purposes at no charge.

2. What is the nature of the copyrighted work? I doubt you can copyright a cultural object like a Jack O Lantern, and there are no other visible brand names or anything else suggesting any these items are copyright, just that they appear to be manufactured items. So, who even knows what the objects are specifically?

3.What is the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole? Assuming there is any copyright work at all, with the exception of the aforementioned pumpkin, all items appear in only fragmentary portions.

4. What is the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work? 17 U.S.C. 107(1-4). None. Zero. Zip.

This image is "art" composed of "found objects" based on "cultural reference" which I created and posted in the context of "educational purposes" for a free online article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willjay (talk • contribs) 13:25, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Huge and verbose rationale fails to explain why is the image necessary (and not just useful) for the understanding of the article, and how aren't we competing with news source that produced this image by freely copying it to articles about the event captured. Damiens.rf 20:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted.  Bad licence. WilyD 13:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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