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September 27

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Dear Wikipedia editor, I am Txitxa Leo a local musician in central Mozambqiue. Wikipedia is undoubtebly one of the most visited platfoms on earth, therefore, I would like to publish my article which contains my biography in order to make my brand widely known. I am looking to seeing your reaction in order to be satisfied with you appreciable work. TXITXA LEO (talk) 08:16, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

That purpose is exactly the wrong reason to write an article. Using Wikipedia for promotional purposes is not permitted. Furthermore, while not forbidden, writing about yourself is highly discouraged, please read the autobiography policy. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, but a place to summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about a topic, showing how it is notable as Wikipedia uses the word, such as a notable musician. I suggest you go on about your life and career as if Wikipedia did not exist; if you truly merit a Wikipedia article, someone will eventually write about you.

Be advised that there are good reasons to not want an article about yourself. 331dot (talk) 08:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. Best Regards TXITXA LEO (talk) 09:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Wrapping in table columns

Can anyone identify why the "Release date" column in the table of episodes on The Adam Buxton Podcast is wrapping, even though "nowrap" is set in the table? I'm not good at this kind of editing. Thanks. Popcornfud (talk) 12:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

@Popcornfud: Because the table, for some reason, has a fixed width of 35em set on its style attribute. Bazza 7 (talk) 12:08, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I don't know what that was achieving. I've removed it. Thanks a lot! Popcornfud (talk) 12:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Previous accounts

I edited Wikipedia previously under the username User:Otolemur crassicaudatus and User:NGC 2736. I don't use those accounts now. Can I get rollback rights? Under my current account, I have made only 200+ edits. CometVolcano (talk) 16:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

@CometVolcano: - suggest you ask at WP:AN. I vaguely recognise the first user name from many years ago, but not the second. Anyway, AN is the correct venue. Mjroots (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Can't find an article that should be obvious

We have the article List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign. I added a couple entries to it a few minutes ago. I count in that lengthy list of anti-Trump Republicans, 87 notable Republicans who endorsed Kamala Harris.

Looking around for the obvious corollary article List of Democrats who oppose the Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign and couldn't find it, trying variations of the title.

And yet, if I search the page for the word "democrat" in the article List of Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign endorsements it turns up 56 hits, about half of them in the article and half in the references.

So they do exist. Although the list is smaller, it seems even 20 or so notable Democrats supporting Donald Trump is worth a standalone list, ironically maybe even more notable for its small size compared to the list of Republicans who endorse Harris.

It should exist somewhere, but I am not finding it, and I am hesitant to start such a list article without knowing for sure whether I'm duplicating an effort. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Such a list would be in the "See also" of List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements, so you can be pretty sure it has not yet been written. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Opposing the campaign of your party's nominee is different than endorsing the opponent's campaign. 331dot (talk) 17:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but that "See also" has List of Democrats who opposed the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign, for example. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

We do, however, have a list of Republicans who oppose Trump's campaign, and that list also mentions who each Republican endorses (many but not all endorse Harris), so in effect we have both topics in one list. But I couldn't find an article about either subject about Democrats: no list of Democrats who oppose Kamala Harris' campaign, and no list of Democrats who endorse Trump. I figured someone would have written one of them by now, so I thought I'd ask here. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:06, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

If you are interested in having such articles written, could you help by providing sources for these articles? Some news about such persons? 176.0.167.84 (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

The sources are already cited in List of Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign endorsements. About two dozen are identified as democrats. The sources used there could be used in a new article List of Democrats endorsing the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign or some similar title. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

But that is a whole other idea. Opposing its own partys campaign is seldom good. Endorsement of the other partys campaign will occur more often, because if that campaign is especially bad, it will help the own party win. And fans of a party tend to see the own campaign tendencially better than it is, and the other partys campaign tendencially worse than it is. Therefore it's more probable to endorse the other partys campaign than to oppose its own. 176.0.164.155 (talk) 19:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

I'd say that's a false supposition. The majority of List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign do not appear to endorse Harris. Those 80+ who do endorse Harris are not doing so as a backhanded way of benefiting their own party, they have stated clear reasoning for their endorsement. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:59, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

And another misunderstanding! Endorsing Harris's campaign is not the same as endorsing Harris. 176.0.164.155 (talk) 23:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

You're splitting hairs. The article I linked says they're endorsing Harris.

This discussion has veered off the initial topic. You may have the last word. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Who determines who gets cancelled company or agent you deal with.

2601:244:4380:2910:BEA3:DBB9:3E6B:4633 (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Who determines who gets cancelled the company or the agent you deal with 2601:244:4380:2910:BEA3:DBB9:3E6B:4633 (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia, do you have a question about editing wikipedia? -- D'n'B-t -- 18:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Firstly, this is the Help desk asking about problems with editing Wikipedia. You probably need to ask on one of Wikipedia's eight subject-grouped Reference desks.

Secondly, your query is impossibly vague: it could apply to almost any commercial contract situation, from renting a TV to signing with a professional football club. You will need to give fairly exact details short of naming actual companies, etc. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.86.81 (talk) 18:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Are the reviewers in general just not civil and welcoming?

I got a pretty uncivil response from Drmies to a reply I did. Not sure what I did to warrant that

I’m new and this isn’t very welcoming at all RandomTron (talk) 23:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

You admitted on your own talk page that you were intending to use Wikipedia for the purposes of promotion, which is against policy. This is presumably why Drmies was so curt with you. AntiDionysius (talk) 23:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you AntiDionysius, that’s a much better response! I appreciate you 76.103.237.172 (talk) 23:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Drmies was not curt. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

I think the comment appended to the template was indeed curt. But I do not mean this as a criticism; it strikes me as wholly justified curtness. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Anyone coming to Wikipedia for the purpose of using it as a publicity platform isn't going to be treated in a welcoming manner. Wikipedia is over two decades old, and by now the entire world knows that it cannot be used that way, so the regulars here don't view being new as a valid excuse.

If you're actually here to build an encyclopedia, then welcome! We need more good editors.

But if you're here to promote yourself, your company, or your own original ideas, then you are not here to build an encyclopedia. Such editors who persist in their publicity attempts are eventually blocked permanently. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Anachronistic for the civil and informative response! RandomTron (talk) 00:24, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

RandomTron, see "When a word or phrase may be an encyclopedic subject", and take "word or phrase" to mean "word, phrase or sentence". (NB "Wikipedia's notability criteria" aren't mine [which are of no importance to Wikipedia] and they're unlikely to be yours [ditto].) Words, phrases and sentences that aren't "encyclopedic subjects" don't merit articles here. Drafts about them will not become articles. -- Hoary (talk) 00:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

@RandomTron: Further to the above, the wording used by Drmies is in Template:uw-disruptive3, and is a standard boilerplate used by many editors. There is community consensus that that template and the rest in the set are appropriate for such circumstances.

Also, if you're going to mention another editor, then you should notify them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

RandomTron, I said "please", didn't I? Drmies (talk) 21:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)