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Connection_Pointe_Christian_Church_of_Brownsburg_(logo).jpg ‎

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This is our old logo that google keeps pulling into our photos. Is there anyway to remove/rename/unlink the file so google won't attach it to us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Connection_Pointe_Christian_Church_of_Brownsburg_(logo).jpg

B.Reeves (talk) 03:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines.NZFC(talk) 03:33, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you have a newer logo? if so, just upload the newer logo to the same name as the old one. If Google is in fact using this particular file instead of a copy of it from soemwhere else on the web, this will fix the problem. Uploading a newer logo to replace an older one is consistent with our policy on use of logo images, which is an aspect of our policy on the use of copyrighted images that do not have a compatable free license. See WP:LOGO for the policy. To perform such an upload, go to the page of the existing file and click on the "upload a new version of this file" link near the bottom. I note that the existing file is not used in any article in Wikipedia, so you could choose to simply request its deletion. However, putting a newer one in its place is more likely to fix your problem quickly, I think. Come back if you have further questions. -Arch dude (talk) 06:18, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

website is in blacklist

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I want to add an external link or further reading Vidyasagar.guru It says site is blacklisted... I want to who and why this was blacklisted How can I make it white

The Invincible Ascetie Aacharya Shri Vidyasagar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saurabhtholia (talkcontribs) 05:23, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User has found the blacklist and requested removal. And received a reply directing them to the whitelist. all of .guru is blacklisted. - X201 (talk) 09:54, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable source adding

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Can you help me in my further learning of wikipedia rules that reffer to Verifiability and adding of reliable sources. Can I add the link https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/abraham-clermont-st as a reliable source to the article Abraham of Clermont? Lyupant (talk) 09:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The site claims the text is from the New Catholic Encyclopedia, which (according to our article) is a reliable source. I would recommend checking (and then citing) that encyclopedia directly, if possible, and skipping the "middle man". I would be very hesitant to use the website as a reference. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question

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What would happen if a bureaucrat's account was hacked? I mean, he could desysop all the administrators and then delete all the pages and nothing could happen against him, could it? Or would Jimbo personally block him by modifying the MediaWiki software? L293D () 13:00, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In the event that a bureaucrat's account was compromised, a meta:Steward would be able to revoke bureaucrat privileges from the account. IffyChat -- 15:06, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to being subject to the WP:STRONGPASS policy, it is also likely that all the ‘crats are now using two-factor authentication, which would require not only cracking their password but physical access to their cellphone in order to gain access. Hopefully at some point the WMF will be rolling that out to everyone. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:25, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stoneman/Stonemason Shooting Hoax

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Why was my edit deleted and I was warned, for editing the Stoneman/Stonemason shooting, to Stoneman/Stonemason shooting hoax? Confused. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:9C3D:4800:71BF:DDF:38B0:6747 (talk) 02:09, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I once said Paul Mitchell sheep so why cant it be on there?`

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Like the title says, ive been mugged off — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.8.254.75 (talk) 13:43, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This belongs on the talk page for the article, but you have been deleted for adding a random name to an article with no source or indication of notability. Britmax (talk) 13:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, IP user. Please see Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. --ColinFine (talk) 14:37, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't the article "Suicide Methods" be put down?

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Suicide methods (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • Stats)

People Have been committing suicide a lot lately and giving them ways and ideas on how to kill themselves isn't how wikipedia should be like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omarsalah69 (talkcontribs) 18:02, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Omarsalah69: You really need to read the Wikipedia policy page WP:NOTCENSORED. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:06, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, if someone wants to kill themselves, they're gonna figure out how to. Taking away the means does nothing about the cause. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:07, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, we have a clear consensus to keep it based on it having been nominated for deletion nine times in the past. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Whilst Wikipedia may not be censored, we acknowledge a "social" responsibility. I.E. "of or having to do with human beings living together as a group in a situation in which their dealings with one another affect their common welfare." We even have Wikipedia:Responding to threats of harm to reflect our credo. We endeavor to spread knowledge for the benefit all. So, I think you are just Wikilawyering. The consensus so far are just votes and not thoughtfully weighed comments. --Aspro (talk) 23:27, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That social responsibility is why the article doesn't give detailed instructions on the cleanest and most efficient way to accomplish any given method, nor does it present information that is not readily and legally available elsewhere. The article is not "here's the most effective way to kill oneself, which everyone should totally try for no reason" (which would be a problem) but simply "here are some noteworthy ways some people chose to kill themselves." As a result, there's as much content about jumping into a volcano as there is about wrist-slitting. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, deleting the article to try and prevent suicide is like deleting the article Opioid epidemic to prevent drug abuse, or deleting the Holocaust article to try to discourage Neo-Nazism. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:45, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This isn’t really a help request anyway, if you think you have a new argument that is stronger than the previous 9 deletion nominations, go ahead and nominate it. There isn’t really anything else the help desk can do, and this isn’t the place for a debate. Beeblebrox (talk) 06:52, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help

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How do I add badges to my page? Are there any groups that I can join to make myself a better wikipedian? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Higginsal (talkcontribs) 22:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Posting a message on your talk page about it. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:58, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Higginsal: Please don't start multiple threads on the same topic. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 01:47, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Higginsal: if you're looking for a group to join, you might find a Wikiproject that matches your interests. Whether you're interested in medicine, music, military history, or just about anything there is probably a Wikiproject that relates to it. Check at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory. --Gronk Oz (talk) 11:10, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]