Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Tim Tebow/1
Tim Tebow edit
- Result: Delist. This is in need of a substantial copy-edit, as well as MoS and referencing fixes. Geometry guy 19:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Many sections of the article, including specific facts, are completely uncited. "2006" is a strong example of many uncited facts and paragraphs, but there are others as well. Large sections of "Early life" and "2007" suffer from this as well. Smaller parts of "Heisman Trophy" and "Effect on homeschooling movement"There are many WP:MoS concerns, but the biggest is that "2006," and definitely "2007" read like borderline Proseline. "On this date he did this and this date he did that." It's not the definition of proseline, I admit, but whatever it is it breaks up the flow to the point of distraction and does not read well at all. There are more smaller concerns as well, but these are the ones that leading to me to list this article. Cheers, CP 18:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delist Seems kinda spotty in places. It reads like its been cobbled together by 100 different people, and only one of whom knows how to reference. Parts are well done, but those good parts are sliced with a bunch of unreferenced stuff that needs more cohesion and more referencing. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 05:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delist When I saw this pass I thought about bringing it here, but wanted to make sure I would be justified doing so. Anyway, as said above there are definite style problems with the article, especially with the references. They need to be in the same format. Additionally, the 2006 and 2007 season sections should be written more as paragraphs and not as individual sentences, with each being condensed slightly. Finally, the awards section needs to be formatted better. It should be written as prose per the guideline on embedded lists. The article is greatly improved from when last I saw it (probably back in November sometime), but I don't think it should have been passed in the state it was listed (a lot of sources were added after it passed) and I still don't feel that it is GA-quality. Phydend (talk) 17:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delist. As CP mentioned, the article lacks references in places to back up assertions. Example from the 2006 section: After the game, some Gator fans suggested that Tebow could be named the starting quarterback over then starter Chris Leak. There's also MoS issues per CP and Jayron. The article could be brought up to par with a good copy edit and a few more citations. Majoreditor (talk) 03:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delist. That is proseline, CP, and this is just one of the faults of an article which reads like a bad CNN documentary. I half expected to find a sentence ending with the word "Tuesday" in this reportage. Some of the prose is quite tortuous: "A dual-threat quarterback who can run and pass, he was used in his freshman season largely as a change-of-pace to the Gators' more traditional pocket passer, Chris Leak" and "The fifth child of Bob and Pam Tebow, both of whom are University of Florida graduates, Tim was born on 14 August 1987 in the Philippines, where his parents were serving as Christian missionaries" win prizes for the number of loosely related facts that can be squeezed into a single sentence. Some sentences, such as "Trinity did not pass the ball much and Tim didn’t want to hand it off every play, so he began to explore his options" (which is uncited), are incomprehensible. Others are verbose: "He chose to attend the University of Florida", "His performance soon began to turn some heads which even led to a minor controversy over him being a homeschooled student", "The bill, which is pending in the Alabama Legislature, will allow Alabama home school athletes to play for their local high school teams just as Tebow did in Florida."
- As pointed out already, the references are untidy. The awards section is probably the best part: concise facts, fully cited! A good copyeditor would be most welcome here. Geometry guy 15:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)