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Result: No action. I hope the comments were helpful. Geometry guy 21:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is not intended to propose a delisting. I am placing this under GA reassessment because I have completely rewritten the article since GA was awarded (see original version when GA was awarded and the current version). I would like a review on whether it meets GA criteria. --RelHistBuff (talk) 10:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't really what GAR is for, and there aren't very many active regular reviewers, so I intend to close this discussion soon unless there are objections: you will get the feedback you need from the Peer Review. In the meanwhile, for what it is worth, it seems to me that the article currently meets the criteria. The only issue I could imagine being questioned is inline citation. To give an example:

Following the annulment, Cromwell was executed on 28 July. Cranmer now found himself in a new politically prominent position, with no one else to shoulder the burden. Throughout the rest of Henry’s reign, he clung to Henry’s authority.

These are not bare facts: they suggest a point of view, and so they should be attributed. I would assume that they are covered by the citation later in the paragraph, but neither I nor the general reader knows that for sure.

As an unrelated issue, you might consider adding the main references used in the "Notes" to the "References" section: that would save having to cite them the first time they occur, and make it easier for readers to see the sources used. Geometry guy 18:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't looking for a peer review here, as I have the article on PR for that. I was looking for an up/down vote on the article on whether it is GA or not. I thought it would be strange that one could completely rewrite an article and then expect to keep the GA badge for what was given to a different article, so I brought it here for a vote. If you want to close it, then that is up to you and whatever is the proper GAR process. Concerning the citation, it is at the end of the paragraph. I basically gave a cite for each paragraph. I can put them on each sentence if needed, but I guess you are just asking for one at the end after "Henry's authority". --RelHistBuff (talk) 21:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the way GA works: as long as the article meets the criteria, it stays listed. Reviewers only intervene when there is a mismatch between the article's quality and its GA status. It is meant to be a lightweight process <tries to suppress wry smile>. The extra citation is not needed for GA, but in this case the two sentences raise eyebrows, and the relation between them is unclear, so clarifying them and adding one extra cite would probably help the reader. There may be similar examples elsewhere. Such citations are likely to be required at FAC, so inserting them now will save trouble later. Geometry guy 19:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]