Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Money No Enough/1
Money No Enough edit
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- Result: Kept Article has been updated AIRcorn (talk) 18:52, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- This passed, what, in 2011, and clearly will not pass today. Take The Dark Knight (film) for an instance, this article pales by comparison... By far. Surely this only deserved a Start class grading, or at most C class? ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Which of the criteria does it no longer meet. AIRcorn (talk) 08:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Decide on your own. I feel it is not comprehensive and broad enough in its coverage. This would be typically a Start class article. Also, the information present in the article itself is outdated. See: Ah Boys to Men. And there are many nitty-gritty little errors here and there, ala overlinking. What's your take? ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:23, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- In 1998, Singapore had virtually no film industry, so media coverage was very limited, as nobody realised the movie would be such a hit. The only outdated information is the claim to be the all-time highest-grossing Singapore-produced film; this and the overlinking (if a valid concern) are not difficult to address. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 09:51, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, so the counter-argument is that this is the best it can get. However, I feel more can be done. Also, I feel the citation style is weird. And it would be good if you could provide more online sources. (I'm quite certain the Internet existed in 1998.) You could add things like online newspaper archives from the National Library. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:10, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- In 1998, Singapore had virtually no film industry, so media coverage was very limited, as nobody realised the movie would be such a hit. The only outdated information is the claim to be the all-time highest-grossing Singapore-produced film; this and the overlinking (if a valid concern) are not difficult to address. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 09:51, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Decide on your own. I feel it is not comprehensive and broad enough in its coverage. This would be typically a Start class article. Also, the information present in the article itself is outdated. See: Ah Boys to Men. And there are many nitty-gritty little errors here and there, ala overlinking. What's your take? ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:23, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Which of the criteria does it no longer meet. AIRcorn (talk) 08:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Minor stuff "Uneducated Chinese men" does not equate to "Ah Bengs". A better translation would be Chinese male gangsters, or something along that line. The Infobox is also missing quite a bit of info – Country? Budget? Gross? Why is a "Cast" section missing? (WP:FILMCAST) Filming locations? ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 10:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- If there are inaccuracies then they need to be sorted. I am assuming this relates to the claim that it "remains the all-time highest-grossing Singaporean film". One way to deal with these date limited sentences is to use {{as of}}, that way the article will never be false. It should be relatively easy to update in this case. Broadness can be trickier. Is there anything specific that you think is missing? AIRcorn (talk) 08:50, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hm, the article gives no indication of specific filming locations – I think that is important. Also missing is a cast section. The plot section does not cover all the cast, and also fails to say which actor plays which role, which can be done by adding parantheses nex to the names of the characters, ala Hui (Henry Thia).... ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:00, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
- I have updated the lead section and Reception section to state that Money No Enough was the all-time highest-grossing film until 2012. In addition, I added the actors' names next to the characters' names in the Plot section. Rechecking my sources for information about filming locations (budget and gross, though missing from the infobox, can be found in the Production and Reception sections respectively). After reading previews of the Google Books results, only one book provided substantial information and I will be checking it out at the library this weekend. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 18:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hm, the article gives no indication of specific filming locations – I think that is important. Also missing is a cast section. The plot section does not cover all the cast, and also fails to say which actor plays which role, which can be done by adding parantheses nex to the names of the characters, ala Hui (Henry Thia).... ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:00, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
- Personally, I'm inclined to say that the article should remain a GA. When I read through it, there didn't really seem that much out of order in the prose; sure, additional sections, etc. would be nice, but there is nothing egregiously wrong with this article. The problems existing with it can easily be fixed (see WP:SOFIXIT), and I see no need for downgrading the article in the process. This is not a time to tear down, but a time to build up. dci | TALK 02:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)