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Anand (2004 film) edit

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Result: Delist Szzuk (talk) 11:29, 25 August 2011 (UTC) GA nominee and others have mentioned some of the sources aren't reliable.[reply]

Formatting problems in Cast and Soundtrack sections
Unconventional Soundtrack section with POV comments for each song
Almost all references are from websites considered unreliable in other Indian cinema GA reviews, with nearly a third of the sources coming from www.Idlebrain.com
Generally not up to par with other Indian cinema GAs

BollyJeff || talk 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Again, the GA criteria do not require the article to be "up to par" compared to other articles, because we're not grading on a curve. They also do not require any particular system of formatting, or require that the contents be "conventional"—and your belief that a description of the song's subject is "POV comments" strikes me as very strange. Where exactly is the "POV" in "This song is about the rain bringing in joy and happiness"? So your three or your four complaints are irrelevant: Articles are not delisted for these reasons.
The sourcing complaint could be significant. I suggest that you use {{Verify credibility}} to identify the specific sources that you believe are unacceptable so that others can consider whether these sources are being used appropriately. (No source is always unreliable.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:48, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have gone ahead and fixed some of the formatting issues that were considered unimportant by some. Now we just need to deal with sourcing issue. BollyJeff || talk 13:36, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article doesn't look that bad, hardly the best GA we have on Indian cinema though. The main issue for me is sourcing. Musicmazaa.com and heavy reliance on Idlebrain. All dodgy sources should be replaced. If I reviewed this for GA I'd have failed it because of the shoddy sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:27, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you mention it, does the Indian WikiProject appear to be struggling? Only 26 of the 10,984 Indian cinema articles are currently marked as GA quality. Of those, 1 article came from 2006, 5 from 2007, 9 from 2008, 3 from 2009, 4 from 2010 and 4 from 2011. Other than those, only 5 of the 10,984 articles are at FA quality (at a rate of about 1 a year). That means less than 0.3% of the Indian cinema articles (or indeed, Indian articles in general) are up to a "good" quality. Ncmvocalist (talk) 10:31, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't get too excited about that. There are plenty of western film articles way better than this one that are not GA either. In fact the percentage of GAs for all of WP is 0.34% BollyJeff || talk 17:10, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've been off the 'pedia since quite a bit due to personal reasons. I logged in only to see a couple of articles that I brought to GA status listed under reassessment. Wanted to check how these were faring and here I am. I agree that the sourcing is a huge problem with articles of non-Bollywood films including this one. This problem is even more for older films. Unfortunately sources like idlebrain.com among other such non-RS were among the only sources that I could find for this article at the time of its GA nom. Invariably that's the way it has been for films of that time whether we like it or not. However I do recognize the importance of GA-criteria and the reasons for reassessment. I want to have my thoughts listed down as the main editor and GA-nominator for this article. By the way, hello Ncmvocalist. How have you been doing? Mspraveen (talk) 15:08, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]