Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Address Before a Joint Session of Congress (February 24, 2009, Barack Obama)
Address Before a Joint Session of Congress (February 24, 2009, Barack Obama) edit
- Reason
- Previously, when the video of this speech was nominated this audio's nomination was closed as a redundant and dominated nominee. However, it has since come to my attention that audio only alternative files serve and important purpose for readers on slow connections or who are otherwise unable to take advantage of the video technology. At 32.6 MB this is more than 60MB smaller than the 95.04MB featured video. Surely it serves a distinct purpose for people with slow connections by reducing the download time by a factor of three. This file deserves independent evaluation against the Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria, which it clearly meets.
- Creator
- Miller Center of Public Affairs
- Articles in which this recording appears
- American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
Barack Obama speech to joint session of Congress, February 2009
First 100 days of Barack Obama's presidency
Presidency of Barack Obama
Timeline of the Presidency of Barack Obama (2009)
- Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Strong oppose—an hour-long rambler again? This free-for-all nominating full, unedited speechs by favourite presidents, just because they're a president, has to be re-examined. What makes this among our very best work? Why would we want this to appear on the main page? Tony (talk) 03:17, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- This was Obama's first major speech as President.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, that is a plus. But apart from the enormous length, think of usability for a moment. How do editors know what he is rambling through? Which themes? It's not documented. It has to be used in full in any article on one of the themes he deals with. this is very cumbersome. The apparent blanket ban on chopping up such monster files into more functional parts makes them of little use in most articles. Then think of listeners: very few will trudge through an hour of this kind of politician-speak. It is plain boring unless you're a researcher or journalist who needs to locate something within it. I have a horrid suspicion that these speeches are being nominated solely because they are symbols. This is not very practical in an encyclopedia. The other problem is that it sets a precedent for nominating many many of the ?million political speeches each year made in national parliaments alone. My local MP gets onto his hind legs and bangs on about climate change; OK, let's nominate it. What are the boundaries to protect the body of FSs from becoming all-inclusive, with thousands of political speeches? Tony (talk) 08:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- This speech was the equivalent of a State of the Union address (I think Bush delivered the official one a few weeks earlier). The complete text is available at the file description page. That should help readers/listeners find what they want within the larger file. This speech's WP:N is established by the fact that it has a WP article. Most importantly it is established by the fact that it has an official Republican response (see main at Bobby_Jindal#Republican_response_to_President_Obama.27s_address_to_Congress). Only a couple speeches by the President each year are accorded an official response by the other party. That makes this one of the most important speeches that WP could present to its readers. We want the whole thing on WP, not just soundbites.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 10:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, that is a plus. But apart from the enormous length, think of usability for a moment. How do editors know what he is rambling through? Which themes? It's not documented. It has to be used in full in any article on one of the themes he deals with. this is very cumbersome. The apparent blanket ban on chopping up such monster files into more functional parts makes them of little use in most articles. Then think of listeners: very few will trudge through an hour of this kind of politician-speak. It is plain boring unless you're a researcher or journalist who needs to locate something within it. I have a horrid suspicion that these speeches are being nominated solely because they are symbols. This is not very practical in an encyclopedia. The other problem is that it sets a precedent for nominating many many of the ?million political speeches each year made in national parliaments alone. My local MP gets onto his hind legs and bangs on about climate change; OK, let's nominate it. What are the boundaries to protect the body of FSs from becoming all-inclusive, with thousands of political speeches? Tony (talk) 08:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- This was Obama's first major speech as President.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Suspended per Wikipedia talk:Featured sound candidates#Memorandum on the Duplication of Featured Sound. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:40pm • 06:40, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Not promoted Pointless waste of time. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:28pm • 07:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)