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Portal:Theatre edit

Self-nomination. See archived peer review. Stats: 19 selected articles, all WP:FA, 14 selected biographies, all WP:FA, 12 selected pictures, all WP:FPs, 30 sets of 3 DYKs, all had appeared previously at T:DYK, 20 selected quotes, all with free-use images. News updates with Wikinews Importer Bot (talk · contribs), and a Rotating In this month section. Things you can do has a link to a cleanup listing from WolterBot (talk · contribs), and articles with notability concerns from WP:WPNN. I believe the portal meets the standards for Featured Portal status.

Thanks to Awadewit for help with finding content and work at In this month. Cirt (talk) 08:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - I went ahead and italicized Selected quote; I couldn't find anything else wrong. --Jh12 (talk) 01:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I'm impressed (as usual). The only thing concerning is the fact there are only 12 selected pictures - do you think you could consider increasing that to 15 or 20? Qst (talk) 18:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Every single selected picture is also a Featured Picture, that way the subsection can be titled: Featured Picture. If you know of any other Featured Pictures related to theatre, let me know and I will add those into rotation as well. Cirt (talk) 20:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Thomas Keene in Othello 1884 Poster.JPG just passed WP:FPC. You could also consider Image:Geisha-kyoto-2004-11-21.jpg and Image:The Assassination of President Lincoln - Currier and Ives 2.png. :) Intothewoods29 (talk) 22:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. - Thank you for these suggestions. Cirt (talk) 12:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. I am closing this nomination as successful. The FPOC does not appear to be difficult or contentious and no outstanding objections remain after 8 weeks of the initial nomination. Jh12 (talk) 20:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Portal:Peru edit

Self-nomination. After lots of work, it seems to me Portal:Peru is ready for a featured portal nomination. As there are very few active members at Wikipedia:WikiProject Peru, this portal is designed to be as low-maintenance as possible. It currently has 15 selected articles, 20 selected pictures and 10 DYK sets each with 5 hooks, all of which rotate randomly thanks to the {{random portal component}} template. All selected articles are either featured or good articles and all the DYK hooks are properly referenced in their linked articles. There is no selected biography component because there are very few high quality Peru-related articles at Wikipedia so it would make no sense to split them in two sections. The only portal section that requires manual updates is the Peru news section and this has been continuously and regularly updated for over a year. As for other components there's a things you can do section, a Peru topics section plus related portals and wikiprojects sections. Every now and then you might see an occasional red link, they are a reflection of the limited number of Peru-related issues currently covered at Wikipedia and an encouragement for further contribution. --Victor12 (talk) 17:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Cirt (talk) (addressed)
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Comments
  1. The top image is a bit too self-referential for my taste, others may disagree. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Changed banner --ErickAgain (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
     Not done - Way too tacky. Really this top banner is not needed at all, I think it should simply be removed altogether. Cirt (talk) 22:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Is this a personal taste or shouldn't there be banners at all? Take a look at the featured portals Portal:Japan and Portal:Africa which also use banners and the criteria for portals state: attractive, aesthetically pleasing. --ErickAgain (talk) 11:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]
    I agree, what's the criteria for removing the Portal banner? The previous one was quite nice but was changed for being "to self-referential". How about going back to that one? --Victor12 (talk) 14:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:WIAFPO Criteria number 4. and Wikipedia:Avoid self-references apply here. And yes it is also my taste as well. Cirt (talk) 19:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    For the time being I removed the banner. Banners always will be self-referential and thus will never meet the criteria. As portals are one of the few entities on wikipedia which are not entirely encyclopaedic but need to be attractive, aesthetically pleasing also, I still think the banner is a good addition to the portal. Further discussion on this subject should take place elsewhere until then the banner will remain hidden and this remark could be closed.--ErickAgain (talk) 19:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]
  2. News section looks clunky, good be improved by standardizing with Wikinews Importer Bot (talk · contribs). Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Not sure what you mean here. Coverage of Peru at Wikinews is quite spotty so no point in using the Wikinews Importer Bot. Any format improvement suggestions? --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikinews Importer Bot (talk · contribs) could be used, in addition to a few chosen news events as used currently. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem with the bot is that there aren't that many news about Peru at wikinews. According to http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Portal:Peru there are only four Peru related news items for all of 2008 at wikinews so it would not be very useful to use the bot. Could you be more specific about why this section looks "clunky". --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It has redlinks. It has an awkward template-link to Wikinews at the bottom, instead of a different style which might mesh better with that subsection. Cirt (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Redlinks are there for a reason which I already explained in the first paragraph of this nomination. The purpose of this news section is not to serve as a link to Wikinews where, as I have said, coverage of Peru is virtually non-existant; the purpose is to point the reader to Peru related articles at Wikipedia. As for the template, I just changed it. Better now? --Victor12 (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    IMO and per general consensus from previous discussion in other WP:FPORTCs - redlinks really are not appropriate on a portal's main page, except usually in the Things you can do section under WP:Requested articles. Cirt (talk) 04:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, no red links now. --Victor12 (talk) 16:32, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Looks good. Cirt (talk) 22:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Category section text is a bit small, might look nicer if modeled after Portal:Sustainable development or Portal:Oregon. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah this is a problem. I'll try to work on it. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I changed the format of this section. Does it look better? --Victor12 (talk) 18:49, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Looks much better. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Interesting style for Things you can do - I like it. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Did you know footer could use a link to WP:Recent additions. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    But that link is not Peru related. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, but it provides links to other Did you know hooks for those that are interested. It is a fairly common feature on other WP:FPORTs. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Not sure about this one. I'd like to read more comments on this issue. --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
     Not done. Also this issue was raised by another editor, below. Cirt (talk) 22:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Added link --ErickAgain (talk) 15:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]
  6. Missing: - Selected biography section. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Already explained above. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hrm, could there be some other sort of Selected section instead of biography? Perhaps cities, notable events, something like that? Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    As I said above there are not many good articles to select from, plus adding one more section would unbalance the portal. --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    There are always ways to work to rebalance the portal. And most WP:FPORTs do not have just one randomized Selected article section. Cirt (talk) 22:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, there's not enough high quality content to make a new section of selected articles. A notable events section could be possible but it would take lots of work and time so if this is a major obstacle for this nomination, then the portal should be failed until such work is done. --Victor12 (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, this is a good idea - it's not as good as just adding some other sort of "Selected content" section, but it would help. Good models are at WP:FPORTs: Biography, Religion, War, Holidays and Oregon. The portal just looks lacking/deficient with only the one Selected content section. Cirt (talk) 04:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Added a Selected anniversaries section "In this month" --ErickAgain (talk) 15:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
    Added another selected article section "Selected battle" reflecting the turbulent history of Peru --ErickAgain (talk) 21:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
    Done. Looks better. Cirt (talk) 22:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Would look nice with a Selected quotes section, Portal:Sustainable development has a nice model to use. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    We had one such section but it had only two quotes, one of them not very relevant, so I removed it. A further problem with such a section is the need for reliable translations as most Peru related quotes are in Spanish. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I am sure that you could find plenty of quotes in secondary sources if you give it a try, however this is generally an optional section and just a suggestion. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
     Not done This has not been addressed. Cirt (talk) 22:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It hasn't, however I thought the whole point of this objection was to get more selected content sections in the portal, not necessarily selected quotes. New sections have now been added to the portal, is there a requirement to have a "selected quotes" section in every featured portal? --Victor12 (talk) 14:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I am noting here that this is a suggestion, one that is certainly very doable, that was not addressed. Cirt (talk) 19:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    So the portal can be featured without such a section, right? --Victor12 (talk) 17:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Selected picture - missing roll-over caption on the images. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wouldn't this be redundant? I mean the picture already has a caption beneath it. See Today's featured picture at Wikipedia's main page, it has no roll-over caption, just the name of the pic file. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Again, this is a common feature on WP:FPORTs, and it looks better to have a rollover caption then something.jpg when the mouse moves over the image. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Fair enough. Just added captions for all pics. --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 22:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Peru topics - better to subst the template instead, and then reformat the entries, for example see Portal:Education. Cirt (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmmm... the thing is the topics template is subject to changes so I think it is better to transclude to have it synchronized with articles such as Peru, which feature the {{Peru topics/Content}} template. --Victor12 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes but it looks quite odd with the current formatting/style. Best if someone associated with the portal were to keep on top of the changes and change the Topics subpage accordingly. Or better yet, choose the most important topic links and include those in the subpage, and begin to differentiate from the template. Cirt (talk) 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Does it look odd? How so? Maybe I've been staring to much at this portal to have an unbiased opinion, ;-) --Victor12 (talk) 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Well for one thing the color scheme of the template does not jive with the portal itself. Cirt (talk) 22:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I see what you mean. I'll try to work on this. --Victor12 (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Did some work on this. --ErickAgain (talk) 17:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]
    Done. Looks good. Cirt (talk) 22:44, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Jh12 (talk) (addressed)
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Comments
  • There were some minor additions, probably optional, that I think would be nice:
  1. A clearly visible Show new selections button to purge the cache like Portal:Criminal justice
    OK, agree and added, seems to be de facto standard on many featured portals. --ErickAgain (talk) 17:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]
  2. Image captions for Selected article and Did you know...
    Added captions --ErickAgain (talk) 10:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]
  3. A More link for that particular article/picture on Selected article and Selected picture like Portal:Criminal justice
    Added (more...) link to abstract of selected pictures and articles like in the intro. Not to the footer of the box. --ErickAgain (talk) 19:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]
  4. I also think a link to Wikipedia:Recent additions on Did you know... might be a nice touch.
  5. Making all the box titles either italicized or not italicized.
    Made all headers italic except the main portal header as on the featured Cuba portal --ErickAgain (talk) 10:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]
  6. Image mapping the icons under Related portals to the respective portals: see Portal:Schools/Related portals Thanks, --Jh12 (talk) 09:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Great solution. Made it so, idem for Wiki projects --ErickAgain (talk) 11:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Many thanks for the quick responses. If all of Cirt's issues can be resolved, this portal has my full support. I agree that one more box would be nice, either a Selected biography or the Notable events/In this month section. Some other issues include the cleanup of Peru news (perhaps removing the redlinks and some of the extra whitespace between the news and footer), and possibly the additional of the Recent additions link and Selected quotes. --Jh12 (talk) 18:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No red links or extra whitespace in the News section now. --Victor12 (talk) 03:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - With the addition of the anniversaries section and fixes overall, I believe this portal has reached featured status. --Jh12 (talk) 22:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Thank you for addressing my above comments. Especially thank you for removing the self-referential banner. Cirt (talk) 19:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. Although the portal still lacks a selected quote section, I really think the editors have done a great job of addressing most of our comments and it is beyond the realm of required material under Wikipedia:Portal guidelines. It has also been over 16 weeks since it was nominated and no major outstanding objections remain. Further improvements may be suggested at the Portal talk page. Jh12 (talk) 20:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The portal was promoted by User:Cirt 15:33, 22 December 2008 [1].

Portal:Schools edit

After receiving enthusiastic comments and running out of ideas, I've decided to nominate the Schools Portal for featured status. Many thanks, --Jh12 (talk) 18:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. Some of the selected pictures need to be reduced in size to fit properly in the box. RichardF (talk) 19:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What screen resolution and browser are you using? --Jh12 (talk) 19:31, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1024X768 using IE7. RichardF (talk) 20:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll make sure to continue checking on on IE7 as well. --Jh12 (talk) 20:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've reduced the images by about half. I've been checking the portal on Windows XP with Firefox 3.0.1 and Internet Explorer 7 on a 1024x768 screen resolution so I apologize if I messed up on the image sizes. --Jh12 (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Portal:Schools/Selected picture/Layout is set to width=200px. Portal:Education/Selected picture/Layout is set to width=300px. That seems to work just fine, as long as the frame is taken into account as well. RichardF (talk) 20:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed the schools layout width to 300px. --Jh12 (talk) 20:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The individual "size=" values seem to be set on the individual pages. These will override the default. You might want to remove those in some cases. RichardF (talk) 20:32, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if it makes any sense, but I removed the forced pixel size for basically all the images unless their height was significantly greater than their width. --Jh12 (talk) 20:57, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, default for "landscape" and custom for "portrait." :-) RichardF (talk) 21:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Questions. Why is no selected biography section included? Why is no events-related section (e.g., news &/or anniversaries) included? RichardF (talk) 21:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The schools project doesn't actually handle educators, only primary and secondary schools. I'm not sure about the news section. We're a child of the education project, and school-issues are merged with that subject. Would another project have to be set up at Wikinews, or a department at Wikiproject Schools? I have to admit, we can't even get enough editors for proper collaboration efforts. But the idea for school events/news is a good one. --Jh12 (talk) 22:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • No project is necessary to create a portal. It just makes sense to coordinate efforts, when applicable. That gets to a question I almost asked before you changed the topics section from education to schools articles, for the most part. Many links still relate to education, rather than schools, such as in the projects section and Wikimedia section. So the question is, to what extent is the content at Portal:Schools intended to be distinct from that at Portal:Education? In this case, I personally consider any biographies and events with clear connections to specific schools as fair game. Otherwise, this might as well be a subportal of Portal:Architecture. RichardF (talk) 23:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Wow, that's an excellent question. It goes to the root of what Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools is, which is a project about individual primary and secondary schools: their history, curriculum, extracurricular activities, and a list of notable alumni. WikiProject Education and its portal is not supposed to cover individual schools but rather the concept of schools, universities, and education in general. This project also covers school districts, athletic conferences/associations, and school organizations. Partly due to a lack of participation at WP:Education and because the topics and issues are inter-related, WikiProject schools has adopted some articles (Secondary school is now covered by both projects). Strictly speaking, however, this portal is designed to cover any school that is not post-secondary. That's what the project is focused on, and there are over 130,000 of them just in the United States.[2] I thought the additional links to education topics were relevant because they are pretty closely related. But if there's confusion or too much overlap with education, I could remove them: previously the only links were for WP:Schools and WP:Education. --Jh12 (talk) 00:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • Portals and projects are not the same, and there is no requirement a portal covers the same scope of any particular project. In fact, most portals span the scopes of more than one project. I believe one implication of your comments is that this portal should include content with clear connections to specific schools or "their history, curriculum, extracurricular activities, and ... notable alumni." From that perspective, it sounds like a selected biography section should be included. Notable school-realted events, current & historical, should be included as well.
    Biography I'm still unsure about; I feel like educators on their own are notable not because of their work at a specific school, but because of their work for education in general. The same goes for alumni. The school is famous for having the alumni, but the alumni aren't famous because they were at the school in and of itself. School-related events I can definitely see. I would imagine such a section would include articles like the Little Rock Nine, the Red Guards (China), the Columbine High School massacre, and the Jena Six. I guess the original thought was to keep the portal simple; it's the wpschool portal and that's who maintains it. But from what I'm getting, the schools portal is supposed to stretch out into education, sociology, criminology, and more. Gosh, I guess it's not quite at featured status after all --Jh12 (talk) 01:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There certainly are notable educators associated with schools, e.g., Erin Gruwell and Joe Louis Clark. The question is more about whether any such articles are good enough to include in the portal. Also, a limited scope portal is fine, just don't expect it to make featured status. RichardF (talk) 01:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I was actually hoping to focus people's attention on the countless Wikipedia school articles. Perhaps that's too narrow-minded, or part of a pipe dream that more people will join the chronically understaffed schools project. --Jh12 (talk) 04:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I still have mixed feelings about expanding the scope of this portal, given that WikiProject Schools already covers the complexities of over 21,000+ distinct school articles, almost seven times as many articles as WikiProject Education. Nevertheless, I would like to know how exactly one sets up WikiNews for schools, or would it be better to have a selected anniversary or events section? --Jh12 (talk) 23:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What I've been suggesting doesn't involve expanding the scope of the portal, just adding sections within the existing scope. An automated WikiNews feed wouldn't work because it doesn't have a schools category. Any additions of news items from here or there would have to be selected manually. Doing something like "In this month," like at Portal:Oregon probably is more doable. RichardF (talk) 02:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per the suggestions, I've added a biography section (currently with 11 biographies) and an "In this month" section. I tried to go through every day of the year starting with January 1 and every WPSchool article rated Top and most rated High for additional events. Each month currently has at least three events; I'm hoping people see my messages at the WPSchool, Australia, and Canada education projects and throw in some more ideas. Although I was reluctant to add the sections at first, I think the portal does look pretty nice and more filled out with them. --Jh12 (talk) 02:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now at 24 articles, 22 pictures, 19x3 DYK, and 16 biographies. --Jh12 (talk) 19:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now at 25 articles, 24 pictures, 19x3 DYK, and 16 biographies. --Jh12 (talk) 17:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Cirt (talk) (addressed)
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Comments
  1. Selected biography - section could use 3 or more selections added into rotation. Cirt (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Selected picture - a majority of the credits could use wikilinks to the relevant userpages or external links to the relevant party credited. Cirt (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
     Done I hope. Unfortunately, some of these users have apparently left Wikipedia, but I have credited and linked their user names as the image tags indicated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jh12 (talk • contribs)
    Please do not mark things with {{done}} - usually in WP:FACs that it is left to the commenter, not the nominator, to signify if something has been sufficiently addressed. (Though they don't use the {{done}} icon over there anymore but just the bolded word Done.) As for this particular point some of the credits are redlinks - in some cases to turn them blue you might be able to link to the users' talk pages instead of userpages if they don't have a userpage. Cirt (talk) 06:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I converted all the redlinks I could to the talk pages. --Jh12 (talk) 21:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Things you can do - looks a bit clunky with everything pushed to the left side like that, take a look at Portal:Sustainable development for a good model. Cirt (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
     Done —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jh12 (talk • contribs)
     Not done - Still some issues with a big block of space at the top after the first line, and the italicized portion at the bottom - if that is inactive, why mention it? Seems like something more for a WikiProject page instead. Cirt (talk) 06:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I removed the inactive school watch and reduced the size of the section. --Jh12 (talk) 21:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Wikiversity - Not really sure this needs it own subsection, for one it is so small, and second it is a dup to the Associated Wikimedia section. Cirt (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not sure it does either. It's a legacy from an older version of the portal. If it becomes an issue, I'll drop it down into associated wikimedia. --Jh12 (talk) 20:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That would be best, IMO. Looks a bit self-referential and I think it would be better off in Associated Wikimedia and not as its own subsection. Cirt (talk) 06:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The section has been removed. --Jh12 (talk) 21:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Selected anniversaries - Missing a whole bunch of sections (including August), and lots of redlinks. This should be addressed. Cirt (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, I just started adding the anniversaries and biographies two days ago per the comments above. I've been recruiting for help at WikiProject Schools, but we haven't come up with anything for August yet. --Jh12 (talk) 20:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I do apologize for taking so long with the anniversaries. I have upgraded the number of biographies to 10, but it's slow going finding stuff to place in the anniversaries section. --Jh12 (talk) 12:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Still a work in progress. I'll be asking for input at other WikiProjects. Were there other areas on Wikipedia where I could canvass for additional ideas? --Jh12 (talk) 21:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Related portals - I'd imagine there must be a few more related portals that could go in there. Cirt (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Added a few more portals. Please let me know if it needs even more. --Jh12 (talk) 20:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks great. Cirt (talk) 06:24, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Optional - a Selected quote section like at Portal:Sustainable development would be a nice addition to the portal. Cirt (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. My thanks to Jh12 (talk · contribs) for the excellent work in addressing the points I raised above. The only things left to do are to fill in the missing sections at Portal:Schools/Selected anniversaries and fill out those other months where there are only a few dates listed. Also, it would not hurt to add a randomized Selected quote section like at Portal:Sustainable development, but this is certainly not necessary for WP:FPORT status, IMO. Cirt (talk) 23:30, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Well done. Anniversaries are finished now too. Time for this portal's advancement. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Jh12 took our feedback to heart and did an excellent job of elevating the quality of this portal. RichardF (talk) 22:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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