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Portal:Philosophy of science edit

This portal appears to meet all featured portal criteria. It was the subject of a portal improvement collaboration; and all recommendations noted at Portal talk:Philosophy of science/to do have been addressed. Rfrisbietalk 01:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, looks good. Kirill Lokshin 02:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, good job. --Gphototalk 03:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Once again, great job with the portal. =) Nishkid64 20:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Great job! sign here — s d 3 1 4 1 5 13:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: seems to at least meet all the criteria. Badbilltucker 21:22, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support but I think it would be better, if the portal has an anniversary section as well because it is about the philosophy of science. Having inventions related to science, birth/death of the great scientists on a particular day could make portal more attractive. Shyam (T/C) 12:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Can you point to some examples on featured portals so I can see how that could be implemented to featured quality? Rfrisbietalk 14:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Business and Economics edit

I previously submitted this portal for FP status more than two months ago, and I received a lot of constructive criticism and feedback telling me what I still had to do with the portal. I feel like I've done a great deal of work with this portal, and I believe it is now of exemplary quality. Therefore, I am re-nominating this portal for consideration to join the ranks of other great portals across Wikipedia. Nishkid64 02:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Good work on the portal and dealing with the suggestions. I really like the colors and images in the portal and the even position of sections. Michaelas10 (Talk) 12:34, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Great work! However, I don't know if it's just me, but I think the featured picture's caption should not be centered. s d 3 1 4 1 5 final exams! 12:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Okay, it's fixed now. I was meaning to change that, but it slipped my mind. Nishkid64 15:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Are the stock tickers updated automatically? This was an issue last time around through this process because the portal maintainer must update every day. --Gphototalk 14:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yeah, they are. I got a friend of mine to run an approved bot to take the quotes from Yahoo! Finance. Nishkid64 15:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Well-done all around. Ongoing commitment by Nishkid64 to maintain portal. Rfrisbietalk 16:46, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, Simply excellent. — Seadog 14:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Excellent. --Gphototalk 23:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - It would be helpful if we could get other people involved in maintaining the portal, though. Badbilltucker 16:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, I'm hoping, but I haven't really gotten that much help. I have posted at the WikiProject's talk page, but I haven't gotten the response I would like to see for portal help. Nishkid64 22:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strange idea here. But, as the portals seem to be more or less the work of a small group of editors anyway, maybe there could be some sort of collaboration effort set up? Particularly with portals that might share a somewhat similar scope, maybe we could arrange to have one group of editors update all the portals in a field at the same time. That would decrease the amount of work involved, and probably help to include more articles. Anyway, just a thought. Badbilltucker 15:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support, a good portal. But there are some more points to consider before:
    • It would be better to regular archiving of selected articles. There should be a fixed criteria for a selected article that for how much time it would be on the portal page. By seeing previous archive, it seems to be random. Is there any back-up for the future selected articles?
    • Providing source(s) for market indices would be better because anyone could update the indices if (s)he is aware of it(them).
    • I think, topics are less in number. The list could be more expanded. I do not see the topic related to companies ranking from various magazines, like Fortune 1000 etc. I suppose, it is non-forgettable part of the portal's topics section. Shyam (T/C) 15:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, I only recently created the monthly archive for selected articles, economy and pictures. It is in effect starting with December, and a new economy, article and picture will be featured on the portal page each month. Also, I will add the source for the market indices info. The topics section was probably the hardest part of the portal, and I hadn't even created it! I'll see what I can do, though. Thanks for addressing some minor issues. =) Nishkid64 15:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very great work. But, I think, the bot for updating market indices does not make it regularly. It was last updated on 21:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC). Could the bot make more regular updations? Shyam (T/C) 09:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I personally don't think it is wise to update the bot more than once a day. The markets are around the world, and they close at different times. So, if I decided to run the bot at 14:00 UTC, I would get the final Asian markets, but the realtime quotes for the American markets. By doing it at exactly 21:20, I can guarantee that the bot will have that specific day's final stock market results at around this time. If I update later, the Asian markets are already open for the next day and Yahoo Finance will clear the market info. It just seems better to do it once, and not have to worry about any potential problems. Nishkid64 23:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • If this is the case, then I totally support the portal to be featured. Shyam (T/C) 04:19, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Does the news section need an archive? I've heard yes sometimes, then sometimes no one says anything. Other than that, great job getting it up to speed. Joe I 20:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, if the news links provided are from WikiNews, then you don't need an archive. I get my news from WikiNews for this portal, so I don't think archive is necessary here. However, for the other portal I manage, Portal:Disasters, I get the links from news websites and I have to keep an archive for that. Nishkid64 20:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand the logic of that. I get my articles from Wikipedia, so why do they need an archive. This seems to be a double-standard. Rfrisbietalk 19:00, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The reason is that as wikinews already archives all news. They can be found there at anytime there for any particular dates. But the news which came from other sources, could not be get back without going to history. So it is better to have archive section separately for the news section if they do not come from wikinews. Shyam (T/C) 19:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't address my point. Wikipedia archives articles and pictures. If portals are expected to archive those, why aren't they expected to archive news? Rfrisbietalk 19:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
WikiNews is archiving the news, though. Why do you we need to archive the news when WikiNews is already doing that? I have a link at the bottom of that portal sub-section that has a link to WikiNews. People can just go there and get old news if they wish. I think the articles are archived so that people will be able to see what the actual entry was in the portal, and see what it looked like, etc. Nishkid64 20:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's no guarantee portal news and WikiNews are identical, which is the assumption here. If I'm the only one who cares about this, then I'll stop archiving news too. Rfrisbietalk 20:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would still be a good idea for portals to archive news no matter where it's from. It serves as a central hub for people to see what's been going on in a general arena. Joe I 22:31, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Frisbie, you bring up a good point. The news I put up is not the same. I've noticed a strong New Zealand showing at the business news portal at WikiNews, and I tend to not include such local New Zealand biz news. I generally use only half of WikiNews' articles for BEP. Nishkid64 02:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, that would explain it.  :) Joe I 22:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Well maintained, useful portal Dinojerm 01:31, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Featured portals are expected to conform with provisions of the Manual of Style. This portal would seem to violate the MOS's convention on capitalisation. This needs to be addressed before promotion.--cj | talk 17:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Good point. Use the lower case for Economics and make relevant changes. Shyam (T/C) 18:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • So it goes to Business and economics now? I thought it would be appropriate to leave it capitalized since they are two different topics. Well, if it's at MoS, then I guess I have to fix that. Nishkid64 19:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, I moved all the pages to Business and economics from Business and Economics. Nishkid64 20:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Science edit

This portal meets all featured status criteria. All recommendations for improvement at Portal talk:Science/to do have been addressed. Rfrisbietalk 18:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Literature edit

The Literature Portal was created in 7 March 2005, but was very modest during the first year of operation. I have been paying more attention to the portal since June 2006. The portal now gives a comprehensive gateway to the literary content in Wikipedia (I hope). It meets the criteria at the featured portal guidelines. Most of the content, like selected article (FAs used mostly), picture (width 340px) and biography (a recent feature), are on an automatic schedule. All relevant boxes have archives. It receives regular updates from me and KF (DYK), but it is also supported by the WikiProject Books and its sub-projects. I would note the excellent Trains Portal for giving the impetus to move to automatic updates.

  • Selected article and picture on automatic monthly rotation since June 2006
  • The daily anniversaries section (A day in literature) is working since 14 June 2006.
  • The news section has been operating since 14 July 2006.
  • DYK and Quotes are on a weekly rotation since June 2006.

Naturally some improvements can be still done to the portal, but in my opinion it is not missing anything vital to reaching the featured portal status. With these notes I look forward to comments and suggestions. Best, feydey 20:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Everything looks nice, and the rotation seems alright. The only thing I reckon would improve the quality is the introduction, try to make it slightly longer. Maybe about the history, current influences and stuff. Apart from that, it looks cool. All the best -- Imoeng 00:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Indeed it would be better if expanded, but I have seen the vast amount of topics that literature contains as a challenge. Literature includes fiction, non-fiction, comics, screenplays, poetry and numerous sub-genres so the intro would get too long if these are added and the stuff You mention (history, current influences). I kind of like it short and unspecific. But I will think about it. feydey 09:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, well you can just put 1 or 2 sentences about when it was discovered. Again, I am not really familiar with literature :). But yeah, I think some more sentences won't hurt. Cheers -- Imoeng 10:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I expanded it now. Thanks for the advice. feydey 10:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is nice, no problem. Good luck! -- Imoeng 20:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, looks good. Kirill Lokshin 03:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support seems to meet all the criteria. Badbilltucker 16:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Object' great portal, but there are a few things that prevent me from supporting. Firstly, there are red links in the Did you know... section; per criteria, these are prohibited in content sections (or rather, limited to contribution/project sections). Secondly, I oppose outright the Quiz feature. I realise it is something which is present on other portals, but it is not something I would like to see enjoying prominence on featured portals. In any event, they are self-referential and thus contrary the criteria. Thirdly, I feel the News section should be better placed – eliminating the quiz would free up space in the right column. Finally, I would look at shortening the selected content sections to decrease the portal's length.--cj | talk 14:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment at User_talk:KF#Portal_Lit.. <KF> 21:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Though I could demonstrate the ways in which you've failed wikiquette in your comment, that wouldn't be constructive, and is beside the point of this process you seem decidely unfamiliar with. However, I'll accept that my objection was perhaps too vague. I'll clarify my objections point-by-point:
  • The criteria (linked, for your reference) states "red links must be restricted to only contribution-encouraging aspects..." This means editor-focused sections only (Things you can do..., etc); content sections (ie, sections focused on the encyclopædia proper – Selected article, Did you know, News/Current events etc) should have no red links.
I agree. feydey 13:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I object to the quiz feature on the grounds of criterion 6: "should not be self-referential". A quiz requires interactivity, interactivity requires self-reference and self-references are allowed for contribution-encouraging sections only.
I hope the new layout is satisfactory. feydey 22:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • My suggestion with regard to the News section is minor, but based on criterion 3: "the display of Wikipedia content should be a featured portal's foremost aim, and encouraging contribution secondary". As the News section is a content section, it should logically precede sections such as 'Things you can do.
The News box is big. It used to be displayed differently [1], but it will mess out the current layout IMHO if moved (or it must be shortened drastically). I'd rather not move it, but if You feel strongly about it i'll be ready to do something. feydey 13:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll withdraw my final point. It centred on usability concerns, but was minor.
These are actionable objections. This portal cannot be promoted to featured status without meeting them.--cj | talk 08:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support now. Excellent improvements. However, please don't use thumb mark-up for image formatting, as it causes faults with the box backgrounds.--cj | talk 15:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Chemistry edit

A few people have been working to bring this up to featured portal standards in the past month or so, and I believe it satisfies featured portal requirements. The portal was created last year, is updated monthly with a new featured article, or whenever needed for news, and currently has 3 sections of rotating content, and a few more of standard static content. All feedback is appreciated :) riana_dzasta 13:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. This portal is comprehensive, well designed, and well maintained. As disclosure, my role primarily has been to help with the rotated content sections and offer suggestions on presentation. Rfrisbietalk 13:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support To be honest this is one of the best portals I have seen, it definitely deserves such an honor.__Seadog ♪ 14:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support per all above. • s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk · contribs • 05:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - as per all of the above. Badbilltucker 23:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: the portal has not been updated since April 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidhu 2201 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Education edit

This portal meets all featured status criteria. All recommendations for improvement at Portal talk:Education/to do have been addressed. Rfrisbietalk 21:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, good just like all of your other portals. On that strain, do you think that you could change the colors of the portal a little bit since they are the same as all of your other ones? Regards, --Gphototalk 02:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • How's that? :-) Rfrisbietalk 03:56, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Nice and sober. Thanks, --Gphototalk 14:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • Okay, I took back the blue/yellow palette here and moved the browns over to the dogs portal. They're "earthier" anyway. :-) Rfrisbietalk 21:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, and thanks for following my suggestion regarding branching out the selected article. Good work! :) riana_dzasta 17:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - seems to meet and exceed all of the criteria, like I've come to expect from Rfrisbie's portals. Badbilltucker 19:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, everything looks good. Am I the only person surprised by the use of fictional characters in the "Selected educator" section, though? Kirill Lokshin 01:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, I was surprised too! :-) However, I don't believe education has to be all that stuffy to be effective. I thought it might appeal to and help draw in a younger audience to to portal. If it's a deal breaker for someone, then it always can go. Rfrisbietalk 03:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, pleasing to the eye and educational about education. --Gray PorpoiseYour wish is my command! 22:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. s d 3 1 4 1 5 final exams! 02:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Mathematics edit

This portal satisfies the criteria. It exemplifies WP's best work; showcases the best of Wikipedia's mathematical content; is useful, attractive, ergonomic, and well-maintained; adheres to the manual of style; has useful images; and is not self-referential.

The problems cited in the last nomination have since been addressed.

Tompw 16:10, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Looks good to me. --Gphototalk 17:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Very nicely put together. -- DarknessLord
  • Support - can't find anything wrong :) riana_dzasta 09:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just thought I'd add, brilliant work with 'Topics in Mathematics'. Kudos to whoever designed it - you must have spent so much time on it! riana_dzasta 07:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, nothing wrong here.__Seadog ♪ 02:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - supported it last time - now it's even better. DJR (T) 02:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support per all above. No faults. s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk • contribs 19:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - seems to meet all the criteria. Badbilltucker 22:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Object, a number of issues that still need to be fixed:
    • The picture needs an explicit image credit.
    • Thumbnail formatting (in the "Article of the Week") causes formatting faults with the background color, and should be removed.
    • The [edit] links on the rotating content should go directly to the content, not to a subpage that transcludes it. In other words, rather than including Portal:Mathematics/Featured article in the portal and only having the rotation code in it, bring the rotation out to the portal itself.
    • The formatting of the picture subpage is utterly bizarre; it's labeled as the "Article of the Week", and the edit links take one there. Kirill Lokshin 01:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, in order...
    • I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean by "image credit". I can't see anythign that might be called an image credit on Portal:Biography (the first featured portal I could lay my hands on), neither does Portal:Food (the first on the list of featured portals). I also wasn't aware this was a requirement.
    • Sorry, no can do. If the image is to have captions (as Wikipedia:What is a featured portal? point 5 requires) then it must be of type "frame" or "thumb". If it is to be any size other than the uploaded size, then it must be thumb. (See Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax#Type).
    • Fixed
    • What "picture subpage"????? I honestly have no idea what you mean... please give links. If you mean the "picture of the month", the edit link on that goes to the correct place.
    Tompw 22:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, let's see
    • I'm not sure about those particular portals—they were promoted some time ago—but all the recent ones have picture credits. For an example, see the picture section on the Main Page.
    • Captions aren't required for all images; but, if we want them here: it's trivial to add captions without using thumbnail markup; see, for example, Portal:War/Intro.
    • The subpage in question is Portal:Mathematics/Featured picture; the box there is set up incorrectly.
    Kirill Lokshin 23:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Right,
    • OK, done.
    • Done. (I think this is *really* inelegant way of doing things, but that's MediaWiki's fault, not yours).
    • Ahh... the <noinclude> stuff... Anyway, done.
    Tompw 12:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Nice work on the first two, but the noinclude stuff on the subpage seems to still point to the wrong place. Kirill Lokshin 14:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. :-) Tompw 15:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, support from me now. Kirill Lokshin 16:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support looks fine, no complaints. feydey 20:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Very nice. "Topics in mathematics" hits the spot! :-) Rfrisbietalk 03:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. A well-organized portal. I agree about the topics section, very original. Michaelas10 (Talk) 17:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Italian Wars edit

This is the first portal I've actually finished with in quite some time. It includes five sections of rotating content (all using random rotation), and the more-or-less-standard non-rotating sections. I look forward to all comments! Kirill Lokshin 04:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • The bottom part of the portal is messed up. The "What are portals?" "List of Portals", related portals and so on have bunched themselves up in a corner down at the bottom of the page. Also, the Wikimedia box is empty except for the image link, which looks kind of odd. Fix this and the portal will be much better. --Gphototalk 17:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hmm, that's really weird. I don't see any bunching up; as far as I can tell, they're floating at the bottom of the outer box. Are you using any unusual browser or resolution?
    • I'll see if I can figure out a better place to put the Commons link. Kirill Lokshin 17:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • What's happening is that the box that is supposed to have all the wikimedia stuff in it is not holding anything but the image link. My browser is Safari, and I am not operating under any unusual conditions, so I don't think that it's my browser. Hope this helps! --Gphototalk 17:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yep, that was the intended effect; there aren't any other Wikimedia links worth providing. In any case, I've combined the Wikimedia link and the related portals into a "Related content" box at the bottom; hopefully that clears up whatever the formatting problem with the portals was. Kirill Lokshin 17:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • Support Yep, that fixed everything. The only thing is that the borders around the boxes are not contrasting enough for me, but that is a matter of personal preference and I'll let it go. Regards, --Gphototalk 17:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - seems to meet all of the criteria. And I didn't know Kirill made portals, too. Good work. :) Badbilltucker 14:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Portal:War is the only one I've really worked on from start to finish; I've created a couple of others, but they're maintained by other editors now. Kirill Lokshin 16:12, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Clean, attractive, and informative. The left column of boxes is longer than the right column, which creates a large white space on the right, but I suppose that varies as the content rotates. Not a big deal, but perhaps the "selected biography" box could be two columns wide in order to fill in some of the space. —Kevin 13:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's a content rotation issue. Since the content is refreshed at random, there's really no way to predict which column will be longer at any given time. Kirill Lokshin 14:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Nice job. TomStar81 (Talk) 05:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per all above. • s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk · contribs • 17:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Psychology edit

This portal meets all featured status criteria. All recommendations for improvement at Portal talk:Psychology have been addressed. Rfrisbietalk 19:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Wow, you have a lot of portals going at once, good job! Gphototalk 21:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, looks good. Kirill Lokshin 04:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - measures up to the high standards Rfrisbie has demonstrated with his previos work. Badbilltucker 14:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, as it meets all of the criteria. I find something new and interesting every time I see the portal! --Gray PorpoiseYour wish is my command! 22:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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