Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/Image:Warsaw Ghetto Josef Bloesche-edit1.jpg

Warsaw Ghetto Josef Bloesche-edit1 edit

Deleted image

File:26543.JPG

High res version now uploaded

Straightened, cropped, renamed high res version per previous 'small' FP version

Reason: Deleted at COM:DEL. Already delisted. MER-C 03:40, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I re-uploaded to en-WP. This is PD in the U.S., but is ineligible for hosting at Commons. howcheng {chat} 17:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Investigating further, this seems to have been re-uploaded by someone else as Image:Stroop Report - Warsaw Ghetto Uprising 06.jpg. howcheng {chat} 18:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any objections to this being refeatured? It seems a little small... MER-C 06:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep --Fir0002 02:59, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional keep. Grumble, grumble I was going to say delist and renominate, but when I looked at it fullsize I seem to remember supporting the original nomination (I don't guess anyone can easily find the link to that?). So keep, provided Howcheng (or someone) can confirm that this is basically the same as the version that was originally promoted; if not I think it should be delisted and renominated. --jjron (talk) 08:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This is the same version that was originally promoted. I am an admin on Commons, so I was able to view the deleted file, which I then downloaded and reuploaded locally. The version that has been uploaded by someone else will probably need to be deleted from Commons, since it's not PD in its home country (Germany). howcheng {chat} 17:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too historically valuable not to keep --Hadseys (talk • contribs) 16:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delistbecause it doesn't meet the minimum size requirements, and the subject is not dynamic enough to overcome that. Keep. Thanks for the hi-res version. Not to be a nit-pick or anything, but it could do with some clean-up. I can't do it, though. But I think that it is now good enough for an FP. Clegs (talk) 17:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Its a little boy about to be shot dead after the warsaw ghetto uprising, id say it was plenty dynamic, perhaps a little too much so
Delist as per Clegs. Thingg (talk) 21:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Again, find me a better shot of the subject and prove to me that this is not the best WP has to offer and I'll change to delist but until then people have to stop giving size higher priority than the best to offer principle. Cat-five - talk 08:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delist per Clegs. Thisglad (talk) 11:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This is one of the most famous photos of the second World War. Much effort have been made to identify the people in the photo. It's one of those rare documentary photographs with a "perfect" composition (YMMV). A resolution that meets the FP requirement would be better, but "exceptions to this rule may be made for historical or otherwise unique images" Wikipedia:Featured_picture_criteria. Zarniwoot (talk) 00:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
FYI... This really is a famous photo. I've seen it in many Holocaust books and websites. You can buy posters of the photo on one site. Some sources claim that he boy is Tsvi Nussbaum, but the Wikipedia article suggets that he might not be. --User101010 (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've written to the site where this photo comes from to request that they release a small number of high resolution public domain images for Wikipedia, and offered to provide full credit and an outgoing link to their site in return. Also, I've been searching the Library of Congress for other free images of the Holocaust. Haven't found any yet. I'd welcome other leads and sources for material on this very important subject. Durova^Charge! 21:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This image was contained in a report compiled by SS commander Jürgen Stroop who was in charge of the Nazi troops during the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. It was seized by the U.S. government after the war and used as evidence during the Nuremberg Trials against him. It's thus public domain in the U.S. by virtue of being seized enemy property. howcheng {chat} 17:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- - The original ( the only one existing copy) of Jürgen Stroop report was transferred to the property of Polish State by US- Army authorities , just after Nuremberg Trials.This original is now in property of Institute for National Rememberance in Warsaw (Poland). The first publication of all photos from this document was made in Poland in 1946. The author of all photos is unknown - and for the reason he was a member of Stroop commando ( with nationality unknown - it was Germans, Latvians, Russians, Ukrainians) he is from the beginning in prosecution for participating in genocide and for this reason he will never in fact be disclosed personally.

According to Berne Convention art. 5. [1] in any case of anonymous works the law, shall to be in effect is the law of country of the first publication of photo.

For the reason - the country of publishing is Poland , the regulations of Polish copyright law are in effect. See Template:PD:Polish in Commons

Best regards: Andros64 (talk) 10:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- FYI, I have uploaded a high-resolution version of the photo:Image:26543.JPG.
Keep as high resolution version. Image size is no longer an issue. Durova^Charge! 07:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Just for the record, I found the original nomination here. It's clearly a Keep (the only reasons for delist were to do with size, but that's now not an issue), but it's no longer in any articles - does anyone know what it was in before this all happened? Can we get it back in an article before closing this please? Also does someone feel like giving the big version a straighten and crop to bring it into line with the small one? --jjron (talk) 09:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kept . --jjron (talk) 09:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Awaiting placement back in an article (and straighten and crop of large version). --jjron (talk) 09:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced the old version with the new, hi-res version in Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Spikebrennan (talk) 19:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All done; back in articles, back in original places in FP thumbs and Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History, FP count incremented. --jjron (talk) 12:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]