Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/RMS Titanic

RMS Titanic edit

Reason: admittedly it doesn't meet the size guidelines, but take into account the quality of the photo and please do consider that this is the only good original photo we have of the most famous ship in history, then I think that's a good enough reason to support; after all the thing is now 3.5 km beneath the surface, its not like we can just take another one
Articles this image appears in: RMS Titanic
Creator: Uploader User:Daniel Chiswick, but the image would have definately been photographed in 1912 so all existing copyright laws are rendered invalid, so the image is, as far as i can tell, freely-licensed

Support as nominator Hadseys Chat_Contribs 13:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - low resolution Mottld (talk) 15:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I don't know if this is relevant or necessary but the image doesn't give any source information to show ~~it was published before January 1, 1923 which is the reason it's claimed to be in the public domain.~~ that the image is in the public domain. Guest9999 (talk) 15:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Its a photograph of the titanic which sank in 1912, how could it not have been taken before January 1, 1923

Obviously it was taken before 1923, it's when it was first published that matters though. Guest9999 (talk) 19:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to me it seems nonsensical to keep a photo on film for 11 years, so i think its ok to assume it was published before then. It probably would have been all over the papers too --Hadseys Chat_Contribs 19:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It may well have been published years before 1923 or it may have been kept as a memento by the individual who took it and published by their great-grandchild in the 1990's. Without any source information we don't know and I don't think it's right to base copyright status on speculation. Since it has been published (or it wouldn't be here) it should be possible to find out where and when and confirm whether it is in the public domain (which I imagine it is). Guest9999 (talk) 20:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - if any, I'd vote for this one: --Svetovid (talk) 11:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support - great historical value --Brendan44 (talk) 18:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Quality is not good enough. A really good image of the Titantic will turn up here one day - this is not it. SilkTork *^YES! 14:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well when and more importantly if that happens, we can delist this 1
Comment There appears to be several higher-resolution images in the Library of Congress Prints and Photographs collection. I like the composition of this one, but would be unwilling to support without a good browse of the LoC. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you please provide a link to those images please --Hadseys Chat_Contribs 00:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Linking the LoC images is a little awkward, but this is a link to the catalogue. Search for "Titanic". Note: In order to get FP-quality versions, you generally need to download the "Archival TIFF" and convert it to PNG or JPG [Or GIF, I guess]. But if you see any likely, I'm sure one of us can help out. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Another good place is google image search,chooing the "Extra-large images" option. This is probably one we should grab. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It doesn't tell me anything except that the Titanic was a big boat. Mahahahaneapneap (talk) 03:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well what more do you need to be told? --Hadseys Chat_Contribs 18:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Seeing as the Titanic article is 48kb, it seems like there is a lot more that could be said. And....The freddinator (talk) 01:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Small, kind of generic photo of the ship. Also, the caption is poor. Passive voice, "were to survive"; redundant language, "being the largest moving object ever constructed in all history during it's era"; and finally, the awkward "she" placed in the final sentence. The freddinator (talk) 01:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 08:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]