Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Organs of the trunk

Organs of the trunk edit

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 1 Nov 2010 at 12:03:14 (UTC)

Original - .png format - Surface projections of the major organs of the trunk, using the vertebral column and rib cage as main reference points of superficial anatomy.

Reason: It is a very useful composite of multiple references describing anatomical locations. It's been put on WikiProject Anatomy and on general display for a while for feedback, and errors have been fixed, so the anatomical accuracy may be assumed to be acceptable.
Articles in which this image appears: Trunk (anatomy), Abdomen, Chest, Human rib cage, Vertebral column, Liver, Kidney, Pancreas, Superficial anatomy, Gallbladder, McBurney's point, Transpyloric plane, Celiac artery, Oblique fissure, Horizontal fissure of right lung
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator: Mikael Häggström

.svg format - it's the editable source, but not the version used in the articles ~~because of incompatibility with many image viewers outside Wikipedia.~~ although it's very likely superior due to available png renderer.

Support as nominator --Mikael Häggström (talk) 12:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Question Where can I find more information about SVG "incompatibility with many image viewers outside Wikipedia"? Is it something that affects only this file? Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 12:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can probably find what you want to know at Scalable Vector Graphics#Software and support in applications. There are many applications for svg, but it's not as widely compatible as png. This is not an issue specific for this image, however, so I made a special note for it at Talk:Nomination procedure#Nominate vector or raster version?.Mikael Häggström (talk) 14:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support SVG Very good EV and technical quality. Since the image page for any SVG file on Wikipedia also has "This image rendered as PNG in other sizes: 200px, 500px, 1000px, 2000px.", people with no SVG compatibility can still view SVG files which are automatically rasterized to PNG in a variety of formats. Therefore in my opinion SVG is superior in every respect. Purpy Pupple (talk) 03:08, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The edges of the dude are fairly rough. Anything that can be done about that? It's not a big issue, but if it's easy to fix, it would make this look nicer. Makeemlighter (talk) 03:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In which way do they look rough? If it's a suboptimal cut of the trunk, I could do a bit of zooming out (or in).Mikael Häggström (talk) 03:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I realize now it's just that File:Upper body front.png isn't that great. When you get up to 1000px on the SVG, the sides become noticeably jagged (near where it says "L5" and "Anterior", for example). It's not really a big problem, just a minor annoyance since the underlying image isn't SVG. Makeemlighter (talk) 03:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see. I tried to make a bit smoother cut from the transparent background, but I'm not sure if it's apparently better now. Mikael Häggström (talk) 04:54, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose All of the T and L lines extend too far to the left. Further, the horizontal alignment of T5, T6, T7, T8, and T9 are too high; T4 is borderline (it's positioned in the joint line). Also, the position of the label "Stomach" is unfortunate, as it sits directly on the T10 line, and might be misinterpreted. Sasata (talk) 02:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback! I've updated the svg version, but will wait with updating the png version until any other fixes have been done. I've tried to move those T and L labels a bit closer. When looking closer at the alignment of T5, T6 etc, I concluded that it is the bones that are a bit too low, so I elevated some of them. The vertebrae are pretty hard to see behind the heart, but when looking at the head-part of the ribs, then it should now be seen that they correlate better with the labeled levels of their vertebrae. The stomach label is also moved some. Mikael Häggström (talk) 15:52, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I find the image really hard to "read" - maybe a simple case of TMI? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]