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Burking Poor Old Mrs Constitution, Aged 141 edit

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Original – Burking Poor Old Mrs Constitution, Aged 141 (1829). This satirical cartoon by William Heath depicts the Duke of Wellington and Robert Peel in the roles of the body-snatchers Burke and Hare, suffocating Mrs Docherty for sale to Dr. Knox; representing the extinguishing by Wellington and Peel of the Constitution of 1688 by Catholic Emancipation.
Reason
Great and interesting satirical cartoon, good quality
Articles in which this image appears
Burke and Hare murders, Catholic emancipation, Robert Peel, William Heath (artist)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Others or Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others
Creator
William Heath
  • Support as nominator – SchroCat (talk) 12:38, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, excellent choice, very clear.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:52, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Great image, but it's below the minimum resolution. Do they have a higher resolution version? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not that I can find at Wellcome, or elsewhere - 1,668 × 1,198 is the largest version I can find (although still looking), just in case. - SchroCat (talk) 13:50, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Scro, that was really funny. Geat pic. But do you know about the requirements? minimum 1500px X 1500px on both sides... This one is only ‎1,668 × 1,198 pixels ... I mean, it will probably not work, because it is rather under minimum required size. Hafspajen (talk) 13:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Exceptions are sometimes made, so it's possible this can pass... not a guarantee though. Depends on the voting. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Its usefulness, IMHO, outweights the small size issue. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on the small side, and a little oversaturated-looking - surely the colours would have faded a little bit even if they were that vivid to start? More importantly:
  • EV in Burke and Hare murders: Very low: the way it's used it made it look like Miss Constitution was one of the victims, placed right up next to the list of victims, and naming Miss Constitution prominently without explanation. It's a bit more relevant elsewhere, but... Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:45, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've put the image back in, lower down in the "In media portrayals and popular culture" section, together with an explanation in the text. That may not answer the question of oversaturation, but should cover the Burke and Hare question. - SchroCat (talk) 09:05, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's at least not actively misleading now, but I'm not really convinced there's enough EV to overcome the small size, and probable over-saturation. There's no one article where it adds particularly much. Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:20, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it adds to the Catholic emancipation article - a contemporary view of the revocation of the 1688 Constitution. (Although, obviously that doesn't deal with the technical aspects). Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 10:28, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure about the saturation aspect either, or whether we can judge if the colours have faded. This image is frm the Wellcome collection, and it appears much less saturated tha the Britih Museum copy (although more so than the Cornell University copy. - SchroCat (talk) 10:33, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • My presumption would be that the British Museum copy is uncalibrated. That is not at all a natural look. This is why I prefer restoring from things in my hand whenever possible. Anyway, I don't mean to say it adds nothing; just that I don't think it adds enough to overcome my concerns. I live in Edinburgh, so of course know Burke and Hare, but for readers in America or Australia or the like I could see needing a lot of explanation. And that's after explaining about the constitution.
    I'd be more enthusiastic if it was A. outside a gallery in William Heath and B. higher-res William Heath artworks weren't readily available. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:04, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Seems very broadly relevant as an early example of a recurrent theme in political satire. Samsara 15:39, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Burking Poor Old Mrs Constitution. Wellcome L0019663.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 13:32, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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