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Nominator(s): -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Knuth, Hopcroft, Lamport, Aho – all authors of CS textbooks, and all winners of the “Nobel Prize of computer science”. My third FL nom; something different this time. I’ve improved the lead, table accessibility, and added a bunch of references. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DBC edit

Dylan620 edit

Placeholder for image review. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 17:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some comments:
  • Images need alt text; as of time of writing, only the image of Turing himself has alt text.
  • File:Kei younger.jpg is missing author information.
  • Images are suitable for identifying their subjects, thereby adding encyclopedic value to the listicle.
  • Licensing checks out across the board; all images are either PD or CC, with many having notes that permission for use was granted via VRT correspondence.
Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 22:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dylan620: Thanks for the review. I've added alt text for all the images. Is the fact that the author info is missing for the Iverson photo a showstopper at FL? If so, I can remove that image. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:55, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MPGuy2824: No problem. I don't know for certain if it's a showstopper at FL, but I will say that the last time I brought an image that lacked authorship information at an FLC (which ultimately passed), the nominator seemed to agree that it was an issue and swapped out the image. The uploader of the Iverson image stated that permission had been granted by Iverson's estate, but we don't know for certain if the photo was actually taken by someone representing the estate. Also, at the risk of comparing apples to oranges, I've just looked back through some unsuccessful FLCs and noticed that in a few of them, an issue was that some refs were lacking authorship information. So I'd say remove the photo out of an abundance of caution. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 19:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dylan620: Removed the photo. There was one other photo of Iverson, but that too had the same issue. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MPGuy2824: Roger that; pleased to support. BTW, if you have any time or interest, I would greatly appreciate some feedback on a very old FLC. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 18:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pseud 14 edit

  • major technical importance to computer science.[2] It is generally recognized as the highest distinction in computer science -- MOS:DUPLINK, unlink the second instance of computer science; perhaps worth switching it to in the field or in the field of study to avoid being repetitive.
  • theoretical computer science and artificial intelligence[6] and a key contributor -- comma after artificial intelligence
  • I would link Word War II, and Google on the first instance.
  • That's all from me. Pseud 14 (talk) 17:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pseud 14: done all. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Pseud 14 (talk) 02:26, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments edit

  • I think the image of Turing would look better in the infobox rather than floating below it
  • "and a key contributor to the Allied cryptanalysis of the Enigma cipher during World War II." - no source against this. Is it covered by the reference in the middle of the sentence?
  • Entries in the "rationale" column which just consist of a single sentence fragment (eg 1966) don't need a full stop.
  • "He is also known as the author, with Wheeler and Gill," - any reason not to show their forenames? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude: Fixed all. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

magiciandude edit

  • For the editor's notes, I would not put "warning" and instead write Per WP:NFCC, non-free images are not to be used on lists-->
  • Are all the rationales quoted? If so, they should use quotation marks.
  • See my FL Billboard Latin Music Hall of Fame for entries without images. I would just put a dash instead of leaving it blank. But it's up to you.

Once these issues are addressed, I will gladly support this list. Erick (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Magiciandude: Fixed all. I also fixed the same issue in a different FL nom where a few photos were unavailable. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks both for the improvements to this article! Regarding the NFCC warnings -- the idea is to be very direct since editors on this page have repeatedly ignored warnings that have been less direct. (We must have had, oh, 5-10 edits to the page to add photos before the warnings were in place, after they were in place we still got one or two.) I'm open to ways to improve the warning but "Per WP:NFCC, non-free images are not to be used on lists" does not cut it in my experience, as the editors coming to the page to add images are not always familiar with the concept of free use. Caleb Stanford (talk) 14:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. MPGuy2824 you discard the warning part. My final suggestion is that quotes within quotations should use a single quotation mark per MOS:QUOTE. Erick (talk) 16:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Done fixed this Caleb Stanford (talk) 17:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Caleb Stanford@MPGuy2824 Awesome! I gladly support this article! Erick (talk) 17:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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