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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 06:36, 21 February 2009 [1].

Timeline of the 1972 Atlantic hurricane season edit

Nominator(s): Saola Talk to Me
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I am nominating this article for featured article because I think it satisfied the criteria. Saola Talk to Me 22:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) I think you meant featured list :)
  • "The 1972 Atlantic hurricane season is only one" done
  • "the others being 1968 season"-->the others being the 1968 season done
  • ", a total of 7 tropical or subtropical depressions formed, of which all became tropical or subtropical storms or hurricanes."-->seven tropical or subtropical depressions formed, all of which became tropical or subtropical storms or hurricanes. done
  • "The first storm of the season, Subtropical Storm Alpha" Comma after this phrase. done
  • Numbers under 10 should be written out. done
  • "3 became hurricanes with none reaching Category 3 intensity or higher on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale."-->three became hurricanes; none of these reached Category 3 intensity or higher on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale. done
  • "It killed 122 and" 122 of what? done
  • WP:CAPTION, image captions that are not complete sentences should not have periods at the end. done
  • Please check the use of "it's", this is being used as a possessive, so use "its". done Dabomb87 (talk) 00:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

  • Ref 1, add format=PDF to the citation template. done
  • Spell out abbreviations, such as NOAA, UNISYS and HURDAT. done
  • Web-page titles should not be in all caps, rewrite them in sentence case. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean web-page titles should not be written in all caps, do you mean the publisher for the refs? --Saola Talk to Me 19:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not alter reviewers' comments (strikes). I changed the strikes to little "done"'s. I was mistaken about changing the titles; you can change them back. I only meant to spell out abbreviations in the publishers, not the titles. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:24, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think I fixed them, I won't be here tomorrow until at least 4 p.m. EST (2100 UTC) --Saola Talk to Me 02:10, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

commentsJason Rees (talk)

Will do so tomorrow, I'm going to bed. --Saola Talk to Me 04:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Did local time.--Yue of the North 19:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change the Track map from the timeline one to the one in the seasonal article
  • "2 p.m. EDT (1800 UTC) – A subtropical depression forms from a extratropical cyclone southeast of Savannah, Georgia.[2] [3]" - References need to be together also after extratropical cyclone add a comma and add in "located to the" southeast .....
  • "8 p.m. EDT (0000 UTC May 26) – The subtropical depression strengthens into a subtropical storm and is named Alpha." - Add in "previously located to the southeast of Savannah, Georgia," before the strengthens into part.
  • "6 a.m. EDT (1200 UTC) – Subtropical Storm Alpha reaches its peak strength of 70 mph (110 km/h)." - Change its peak strength to its maximum sustained winds.
  • Add a point before this sentence - 7 a.m. CDT (1200 UTC) – A tropical depression forms while over the Yucatan Peninsula.
  • Change that sentence to say A tropical depression forms over the Yucatan Peninsula.
  • "The tropical depression emerges off the Yucatan Peninsula" - Emerges into what? (i presume the GoM)
  • Change this from "Tropical Storm Agnes strengthens into the first hurricane of the season" to Tropical Storm Agnes intensifys into a Category One hurricane.
This one is fine Cyclonebiskit 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "1 a.m. CDT (0600 UTC) – Hurricane Agnes reaches its peak strength of 85 mph (140 km/h)." Again change this to its maximum sustained winds.
  • "2 p.m. EDT (1800 UTC) – Tropical Depression Agnes unexpectedly strengthens into a tropical storm how can ." Strengthens -> Reintensify
  • (1800 UTC) – "Tropical Storm Agnes makes landfall near New York City, New York with winds of 65 mph (100 km/h)." - Add local time which is 1300 EDT. (UTC -5)
  • Change this - "There was no tropical systems during the month of July." add a comma and add the words within the Atlantic Basin.
was -> were Cyclonebiskit 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A subtropical depression forms north of Bermuda." add the words to the before north.
  • "Subtropical Storm Bravo become tropical and is named Betty" - Change to Subtropical Storm Bravo becomes Tropical and is renamed Betty.
  • "Tropical Storm Betty strengthens into the second hurricane of the season" - Again into a Category One Hurricane.
This is fine also Cyclonebiskit 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A tropical depression forms west of Daytona Beach, Florida" add the words forms "to the" west of Daytona Beach, Florida.
This is fine (per minor discussion on IRC) Cyclonebiskit 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "2 p.m. EDT (1800 UTC) – Tropical Storm Carrie reaches its first peak intensity of 60 mph (95 km/h)." References need to be together.
  • "Tropical Storm Betty become extratropical in the frigid waters of the North Atlantic." become -> becomes
  • "Tropical Storm Dawn strengthens into the third and final hurricane of the season" into a Category one Hurricane
This is also fine Cyclonebiskit 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Tropical Depression Dawn dissipates northeast of Charleston, South Carolina after having paralleled the Georgia and South Carolina coasts for the last 24 hours." add "to the" before northeast
This is also fine Cyclonebiskit 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A subtropical depression forms northeast of Bermuda" add "to the"
This is also fine Cyclonebiskit 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "There was no tropical activity in the month of October in 1972." Change this to "There was no tropical activity in October, within the Atlantic Basin.
Try and be uniform throughout the article, it should read "There was no tropical systems during the month of October." Cyclonebiskit 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think thats it Jason Rees (talk) 22:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I did the fixes.--Yue of the North 19:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think so too SupportJason Rees (talk) 23:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Subtropical Storm Alpha and Subtropical Depression Alpha - are these the same? It's unclear. Do either have articles?
    • Yes they are the same - Irmela had forgotten to put in when subtropical storm alpha weakened into a subtropical depression Jason Rees (talk) 17:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, why is anything in May included, when you've already stated the season doesn't begin until June? These events are not part of the season.
    • Whilst they may not be a part of the offical season, they are counted because they formed within that basin within that Tropical Cyclone Year.Jason Rees (talk) 17:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tropical Storm Agnes, Hurricane Agnes - the same as the subtropicals? Do any of these have an article you can link to?
    • No they are not the same as Subtropical storms. Jason Rees (talk) 17:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article link for Subtropical Storm Bravo?
  • Article link for Tropical Storm Betty or Hurricane Betty?
  • Link for Tropical Storm Carrie, or Hurricane Dawn, or Subtropical Storm Charlie, or Subtropical Storm Delta, or Subtropical Depression Delta?
    • Just of note, the above storms don't have articles yet. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Ah. OK. Well I don't mind redlinks. I'm of the school that they encourage new articles. One question though, which is probably not suitable for FLC but it has my curiosity all the same: Is the reason they don't have articles that no one has gotten around to writing them, or because they're not notable enough? If the latter, is a list of non-notable hurricanes notable? I know it has references, but just because it happened and the fact it happened can be verified doesn't mean it is notable. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:20, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well, this is where it can get tricky. In theory, all storms meet WP:N, although most of them are generally deemed non-notable by the WikiProject. Also, in terms of tropical cyclone documentation, 1972 was quite a long time ago, and thus information is probably scarce for the storms that didn't make landfall. I suppose articles could be created on all of these storms, but they would probably be little more than stubs. Each storm has its own individual section in the 1972 Atlantic hurricane season article, however, so it might be more appropriate to pipe-link to those. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:40, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Still unresolved

  • MOS:NUM -- local times should include minutes (2:00 p.m. EDT, not 2 p.m. EDT.)
  • Please link to EDT and UTC for readers unfamiliar with either
  • "There was no tropical systems" --> "There were no tropical systems", surely?

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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