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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 07:51, 26 September 2008 [1].

The Simpsons (season 3)

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This is the final season of the Simpsons' classic era that isn't an FL. All concerns will be addressed by me. -- Scorpion0422 15:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm? ok Nergaal (talk) 17:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What is that supposed to mean? We may have an equal number of edits, but I did a lot of the restructuring on the article, including adding the DVD releases, awards and I might have reformated the table (I honestly can't remember). You're more than welcome to co-nom it. -- Scorpion0422 18:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure new characters should fall under the development section; maybe rename the section "Production"? Nergaal (talk) 17:19, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
is this a support vote? Nergaal (talk) 22:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The problem with "hidden", or "Easter-egg" year links is that none of our readers will bother to click them. The two in the opening sentence: are they worth keeping? At least if they're in a table, there's a slight chance that they might be followed. Some WikiProjects (notable music and now apparently film in the near future) are deprecating such links. The way to go appears to be to reword one of those links so it's explicit, and the reader of course can access all of its siblings through that link. Tony (talk) 03:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look okay. Links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:20, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments of The Rambling Man
Comments
  • "were exeutive produced " - typo.
  • "the previous season by James L. Brooks, Matt Groening and Sam Simon. This season won..." - "This" season could be confused now.
  • Lead could use expanding a little - it's a long list and you've only got one medium-ish para.
The lead contains the gist of everything that the article contains except for plot of the season - which doesn't really matter for Simpsons since it tends to be a status quo. Also, it has similar lengths to other FL seasons. Nergaal (talk) 17:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Six Emmy awards for one category - the relevant article here says "six voice actors from The Simpsons shared the award." - which is it?
Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Voice-Over Performance supports the idea of a total of 6 awards for one category. Nergaal (talk) 17:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • DVD regions 2 and 4 just redirect to the same article as Region 1 so just link the first.
  • Sorry for my ignorance but what is a holdover?
  • "who had decided to leave the next season" - both of them? so perhaps "both of whom had...". And leave when next season? before it, during it, or at the end of it?
  • Bush is linked twice in successive sentences.
  • I'd merge the last two paras of Production as it gets a little "trivia"ish otherwise.
  • "agreed to guest star and were recorded over a period " - and whose appearances were recorded?
I don't have access to the ref. Nergaal (talk) 01:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not what I mean - just reword "agreed to guest star and whose appearances were recorded over a period..." The Rambling Man (talk) 07:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
k then Nergaal (talk) 00:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "published a list of their 25 " - its 25?
  • Avoid the relinking in the synopses, Rich Moore for instance.
You mean in the directors/writers columns? Nergaal (talk) 01:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "but is in the end very happy " - "but is very happy in the end"
  • Michael Jackson is linked twice in one synopsis.
  • "which Lisa signs up for." - for which Lisa signs up.
  • What's Akira?
  • " it isn't " - avoid contractions.
  • "influence to her son." - influence on...
  • hyphen or en-dash in production code?
  • hyphen, double hyphen in 42-7 synopsis - both should be en-dash I suspect.
  • SLH? Use the full name unless you add an abbreviation (SLH) after the character name.
  • " prison-pen pal " - I imagine this should be "prison pen-pal"?
  • I'd link easter egg appropriately.
  • ref 9 could use another p for pp.
  • Turner reference (pg. 39) should just be p. 39 for consistency.

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yee, how there is something to work with! Thanks RM, Nergaal (talk) 16:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm confused which of these you're not doing... and why.... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the confusion. I rewrote teh replies. I believe I have solved all the issues except the one with a not done check (i.e. not done yet, and I hope I will get help) and the 3 I've replied to (where I need some clarification). Nergaal (talk) 00:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Confusion of series & season. This is an american show and should use AmE not BrE. In AmE series refers to the show as a general, whereas season refers to the regular run of episodes - see TV program#Seasons/series. There are quite a few instances where you should use season not series. e.g. "with the series receiving six Emmys" should be "with the season receiving six Emmys" etc.
    • I think in that case, series (referring to The Simpsons, not the season) is the right word.
  • The "aired during season four as holdovers" still has a [clarify] tag after it and an extra fullstop. I think you still need to explain what a "holdovers", I can probably guess but shouldn't have to.
  • Are there any refs for the DVD release dates, Region 1 could be covered by [46] but the others are unref'd
  • Does the last sentence of the reception "section" need to be in a seperate paragraph.
  • There are quite a few {{cite web}}'s where you have listed the work= as the publisher=. e.g. Daily Variety, Entertainment Weekly etc. should be the works not the publishers. For example Time Inc. is the publisher of Entertainment Weekly.
    • Fixed.
  • You could link TV Shows on DVD.com in ref 46.
    • Done.

Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion0422 14:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Lead seems a little too short when compared to other FLs about TV seasons
the other Simpsons season FLs seem to have the same length. Do you have any suggestions to what to add in there? Nergaal (talk)
  • {{infobox tvseason}} now says to use {{start date}} and {{end date}}
    • Done.
  • "who would executive produce 22 episodes the season," or "who executive produced 22 episodes the season,"? I personally don't like the pseudo future tense thing that's going on
    • Done.
  • "Their first episode was "Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington" and felt a lot of pressure." Their first episode as show runners, or as writers? And pressure with regards to what?
    • Done.
  • "They would also run the following season and Jean would return as executive producer in season 13." or "They also ran the following season and Jean returned as executive producer in season 13."?
    • Done.
  • "holdover episodes." jargony perhaps?
  • "Two episodes that were aired", I think
    • Done.
  • "actually executive produced the previous season" is this missing a "during", maybe?
    • Done.
  • "as the speaking voice of Leon Kompowsky." what other kind of voice is there ;)
    • See the rest of the section, his singing voice was provided by another actor.
  • "Carlos Baeza and Jeffrey Lynch would both receive their first directing credits this season." simply received will do. "Both" is completely superfluous
    • Done.
  • Perhaps link Bush's quote "and a lot less like the Simpsons." to Simpsons family?
  • "Jon Lovitz at 8" MOS:NUM rule on numbers smaller than 10
    • Done.
  • "a category which is juried rather than competitive." can this be explained more?
    • There's really not much more to explain.
  • {{episode list}} now has fields for DirectedBy= and WrittenBy=. If these were used, they'd free up Alt1= and Alt2= for any potential future use
    • Done.
  • Other than the fact that the other season pages don't, is there a reason why EpisodeNumber= and EpisodeNumber2= isn't being used for the series # and season #?
    • Not sure.
  • The episode table heading has "Original title (top) Alternative title (bottom)", but I don't see an alternative title given for any episodes
    • Done.
  • "Guest star: Michael Jackson (under the pseudonym "John Jay Smith")", but earlier it say "One of Jackson's conditions for guest starring was that he voiced himself, but a sound-alike would receive credit." Which is it, a sound-alike, which would imply a real person, or a psedonym, which is just a fake name?
    • It's been fixed.
  • "Lisa's nightmare–The Simpsons visit Morocco and find a monkey's paw that makes all their wishes come true – with dire consequences." (and the other Treehouse of Horror descriptions.) WP:DASH -- don't use unspaced endashes here. Place spaces on either side, or use unspaced Emdashes. That said, I think colons would be better. The second dash in the line I just quoted is fine, but I think it would be more aesthetically pleasing if it were an unspaced emdash.
    • Done.
  • Summary for "Flaming Moe's" -- Every sentence starts with "When Moe"
    • Done.
  • References aren't actually needed for plot summaries as they are self-referential. By that, what is said can be verified by watching the episode
    • Yeah, but the references don't hurt.
  • Ref [47] needn't be used to verify each language in the DVD, as it's used beside the "Set details" header
    • Done.
  • "Set Details" and "Special Features" are headings, so only the first word needs capitalising, per WP:HEAD
done.

That's all I have. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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