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My 25th nomination about the filmography of Rod Steiger, one of Hollywood's greatest and most beloved character actors. Some of his notable films include On the Waterfront (1954), The Pawnbroker (1964) and In the Heat of the Night (1967). I have borrowed some texts from his biography. Hoping to get some comments which can help further improve the article. Thank you. -- Frankie talk 17:55, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd suggest adding Ssven2, and MarnetteD as co-nominators as they've also contributed lots to this list. Cowlibob (talk) 22:42, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Lede is too detailed. There's quite a few relatively unremarkable roles mentioned like Innocents with Dirty Hands, The Magic Mountain, Catch the Heat etc. To anybody really up on Steiger's career it would seem strange to even mention ones like that in a career summary. I also don't think it's a good idea to "borrow some texts from his biography". In places you seem to have misinterpreted the text, if you read it closely you'll see that Three into Two Won't Go wasn't a box office flop, it was actually the 19th highest grossing of the year. it was the film before it which flopped. I would also rather some understanding of the sorts of roles he played was given too.
- I didn't take the TiTWG bit from his biography. That's what the Guardian source claims.
- It did well at the box office but a number of critics didn't like it I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"During the 1970s, Steiger starred in foreign productions and independent films in search of more demanding roles, and suffered a setback in his career. " -you don't make it clear what that setback actually was initially, so best not to mention it until you bring up the subject of his health in late 70s. You definitely need to mention his health and career decline because after it the studios treated him as good as dead and he had to find roles in crappy B movies (which I'd avoid mentioning for the most part). If you;re going to mention 90s TV/miniseries I would favour mentioning playing Sam Giancana in the miniseries Sinatra (1992). Catch the Heat is currently a redirect to List of Argentine films of 1987. Please create a stub on it if it doesn't exist!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:48, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Other than this ithe list itself looks in good order.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:39, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The whole lede needs a revamp. I've edited it a bit and will try to give it my full attention this evening.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the comments, Dr. Blofeld but I would like to withdraw the nomination as I am comfortable with its current state. But since it's also Ssven2 and MarnetteD's nomination, they can contest it. -- Frankie talk 17:32, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll leave it up to you Frankie. We can keep plugging away on improving the list until you are ready. I can mention one thing in regards to the career decline - making the film W.C. Fields and Me had been a long time ambition for Steiger. When it was panned it either started or added to his depression and health problems. Unfortunately this is all from memory of talk shows and newspaper articles from the time so it is WP:SYNTH on my part. Also it might not be relevant to this list article. Cheers to everyone and I hope that you enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 17:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @MarnetteD and FrB.TG: I second Marnette's suggestion. Your call, Frank. :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 12:02, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll leave it up to you Frankie. We can keep plugging away on improving the list until you are ready. I can mention one thing in regards to the career decline - making the film W.C. Fields and Me had been a long time ambition for Steiger. When it was panned it either started or added to his depression and health problems. Unfortunately this is all from memory of talk shows and newspaper articles from the time so it is WP:SYNTH on my part. Also it might not be relevant to this list article. Cheers to everyone and I hope that you enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 17:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @WP:FLC director and delegates: Nominator has indicated that they'd like to withdraw. The other two co-nominators are not contesting it. [[2]], this comment by nominator on 22 February indicates they've moved on from this FLC. Perhaps time to close this one? Cowlibob (talk) 18:04, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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