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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 23:07, 5 May 2015 [1].

PCA Player of the Year edit

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Nominator(s): Harrias talk 14:17, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A list that I first worked on a few years ago that I have now brought up to scratch for FL. It is loosely based off a few other featured lists for awards. As always, all critique will be welcomed. I currently have a nomination open, FLC, but this has no outstanding concerns, and has garnered significant support. Harrias talk 14:17, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - can't see any issues, although I don't think the template at the bottom is needed on this particular page given that it just duplicates the table -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
  • Oh man, even cricket award names are complicated.
  • "the 2014 winner, Adam Lyth exemplified this claiming, "It’s a very..."" - awkward. Easiest fix is "exemplified this by claiming that "it's a very..."" - note the lowercase i, and the curly apostrophe being turned into a regular one
  • "but just Sir Richard Hadlee" - but only Sir Richard Hadlee
  • "that season, while in 2005, Flintoff won the award in the same year" - "while" implies a simultaneous relationship in time that doesn't exist here, no comma after 2005, and "the award" is ambiguous grammatically, though it's a safe assumption to be referring to the PCA award. Change to "that season, and in 2005 Flintoff won the PCA award in the same year"
  • Winners of the Cricket Writers' Club County Championship Player of the Year are called out in the table, but not the lead- bit odd, since it's the only such award you don't call out in the lead.
  • Please add the publisher (ESPN) to the espncricinfo reference.
  • Consider archiving your online references with a service such as archive.org or webcitation.org so that changes/removal of content from your referenced sites don't affect the article. It may seem unlikely, but it's entirely possible for a site like espncricinfo to change their article format, drop old articles, and leave you with nothing but a deadlink- it happens more often than you'd think.
--PresN 18:02, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN: All done I think. Harrias talk 08:37, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as my first as an FLC delegate instead of a normal reviewer. --PresN 18:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support based on prose, and the table set-up. Overall I can't see any issues. Miyagawa (talk) 10:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:57, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Image captions which are complete sentences need a full stop.
Done. Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "award ... presented ... award is presented..." picky but this is a little repetitive for me.
I have tried to remove some of the repetition, how does it look now? Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "on more than one occasion" to avoid quickly repeating this phrase, perhaps "more than once" here instead?
Done. Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would be nice to knock up a quick stub to cover that red link off?
  • Are we sure icons are allowed here? I can never remember, nor really have any energy to rediscover the myriad debates at MOS:ICON.
  • Yes, the icons with the country name are fine, as long as they represent the player's sporting nationality. Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't think you need Wisden Cricketers of the Year as a see also since it's in the table about 19 times.
Good point. Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, and shouldn't it really be Wisden Cricketers of the Year?
Yes, done. Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would prefer to see the refs split using |30em.
Done. Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 13:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @The Rambling Man: The reason I've included international appearances in the CWC list is because unofficially at least, that list is considered a good indicator of future talented England players (I'm trying to find a decent ref for this for that list.) While I could include player's stats for the season in which they won, I think it would get too complicated representing FC, LA and T20 stats for both batsman and bowlers (not to mention all rounders and wicket-keepers.) To include all those stats seems over the top, but anything less seems unrepresentative. Harrias talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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