Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/One Direction discography/archive1

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The list was promoted by NapHit 17:30, 21 October 2012 [1].

One Direction discography

Featured list candidates/One Direction discography/archive1

Nominator(s): AdabowtheSecond (talk) 17:51, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating the One Direction discography for featured list because I have worked hard on it the last three days, and I want to see if it can be brought to featured status. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 17:51, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Aaron

Resolved comments by Aaron

~~Comment~~ FN: 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 19 and 42 are missing dates/accessdates. "More Than This", albeit a live video, had a music video, so it should be included really. To be honest, I would have held off from nominating this until their second album and its lead single was released as a lot of crazy 1D fans will be editing the chart positions and making changes, but that's just a personal opinion. I would change: Preceded by lead single, "Live While We're Young", Take Me Home, One Direction's second studio album, is scheduled for release on 12 November 2012. to Preceded by lead single, "Live While We're Young", One Direction's second studio album Take Me Home is scheduled for release on 12 November 2012. It just flows more and makes it easier to read without so many clauses. The lead could do with more sourcing, such as signing with Columbia etc. AARON• ^TALK 20:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed to new flow you suggested, I have added sources for record label signings, More Than This video, and accessdates to those you mentioned. The Music Canada refs all don't have accessdates because the cite webs are certification cite webs: {{Certification Cite Ref|region=Canada|type=album|title=Up All Night|artist=One Direction}} AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Okay. What about just putting the accessdate parameter in that style of ref, it would still work. Also, you should include the music video's for Heroes and Wishing on a Star in that table too. AARON• ^TALK 21:59, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Added dates and accessdates to Music Canada refs and added featuring music videos although I have never been able to find the directors for those clips. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:19, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - My points have been addressed so I'll support. AARON• ^TALK 12:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Thanks Calvin AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support AARON• ^TALK 12:58, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TSU

Comments by TSU

British-Irish boy band One Direction have released -> The discography of the British-Irish boy band One Direction consists of
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The lead should say something about the formation of the band. Before the "Syco Records" bit, it'd be great if you can add up something about the time of the band formation.
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Image in the lead needs WP:ALT
- Done, although no other discography articles does this and I have been on a lot of discography articles. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By August 2012, One Direction have sold -> As of August 2012, One Direction have sold
- What's wrong with "by" its a nice change from "as of" AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
in late 2011 - I'd rather prefer the month in which it was released. Also if worldwide it was out in 2012, please included that also
- All discography's only denote its first release, to add its worldwide release during 2012 would serve for unnecessary clunky sentences AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The word "One Direction" gets repeated twice in the 2nd line of the 2nd para. Use "them" for the second time

Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can last 2 lines on the 1st para be merged?

How do you suggest it should be sentenced AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing much. The list looks pretty good to me. Since OD are new in the business, we cant have further inclusion in the lead and the lead currently is good enough. TheSpecialUser ^TSU 04:12, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Since my comments are resolved. TheSpecialUser ^TSU 04:53, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from — ΛΧΣ21™ 21:30, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Hahc21

What makes johnurbano.com [2] a credible, reliable source?
- Have removed this made to unknown AdabowtheSecond (talk) 01:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
FN48 is missing work and publisher/location: YouTube. (United States: Google, Inc.)
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 01:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I See "Billboard (United States: Prometheus Global Media)" and "Billboard. United States: Prometheus Global Media." be consistent with the use of {{cite web}} and {{cite news}} so that this doesn't happen.

— ΛΧΣ21™ 23:59, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the news articles into cite news and to cite web for the refs of Billboard chart history AdabowtheSecond (talk) 01:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Good. — ΛΧΣ21™ 21:30, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks Hahc21 AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 23:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"One Direction performs "What Makes You Beautiful", Toronto, Canada" missing in before Toronto
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 13:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Alt text needs to be added to images. See MOS:IMAGES and WP:ALT.
- Why hasn't this been addressed? If you don't know how to do it, you add the | Alt parameter to the infobox, and add the alt text. Add text is basically saying what is actually in the image, without saying the same as the caption does. Like describing something to someone over the telephone. TBr and ley 02:22, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - That is what that meant I have always thought it meant writing alternative text in the caption. Never actually read the guideline.. just presumed ALT stood for alternative text in the caption. Thanks for notifying me AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Now officially done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unlink DVD per WP:OVERLINK TBr and ley 02:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 13:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support TBr and ley 23:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Erick (talk) 08:29, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments'

Sales for albums needs an "as of [date]" per new discography guideline (see Jennifer Lopez discography and K-Ci & JoJo discography for examples)
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Certifications need to use the initials of the organizer, not the country (again refer to the above examples).
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Avoid WP:OVERLINK on the footnotes. You only need to link the first instances of works and publishers such as Billboard and Prometheus Global Media on the first footnote that contains the work and publisher (if this is wrong, then disregard this comment). Erick (talk) 04:46, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done for every publication if I haven't missed something AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Delinked some more from stuff I missed prior. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- Thanks AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coment

Well, there some certifications not updated, example: WMYB is 6 platinum in Australia and 4 platinum in Sweden. It's all (sorry, my english is very bad, I'm from Venezuela). Biagio2103 (talk) 00:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

"after being formed and placing third" not keen on this, sounds very US English. We don't "place third", we tend to "come third" or "finish in third place".
- Better? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Two "As of August", it's now October, so presumably an update is possible.
- Have not been able to find a reliable source for total sales as of august 2012 AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:07, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't start two consecutive sentences with "As of August..."
- Better? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"and garnered One Direction induction" awful, once again very US English. Perhaps "and saw One Direction inducted into the Guinness..."
- Better? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Second para of lead, first sentence, too many run-on clauses. And repetitive "debut at number one" is repeated for instance.
- Better? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You use the word debut five times in three sentences, this is not elegant prose.
- Better? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"quintuple " normally in these discogs, we refer to this as five-times platinum...
- Guideline?
  - Guideline for elegant prose? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:27, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Changed to your preference .AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"selling over 5 million" -> five.
- Removed this AdabowtheSecond (talk)
Where are the release dates relevant to, and where are they referenced?
- Don't understand could you be more specific AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Take for instance Up All Night where you say "Released: 18 November 2011". Where is that release date referenced? What territory was the release date 18 November 2011? The Rambling Man (talk) 07:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - It marks on which date it was first released, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Jennifer Lopez, Taylor Swift discography articles all FA lists do this AdabowtheSecond (talk) 23:05, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - I understand what it means. I asked two things: Where is the release date referenced? What territory was the release date 18 November 2011? The Rambling Man (talk) 06:45, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Added ref and in Up All Night's case it was the Republic or Ireland, for Take Me Home and Up All the live tour it is the UK added refs for all. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 01:07, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not much point in a caption as simple as "List of extended plays" if it's already under the heading "Extended plays". Expand it or lose it.
- Done - expanded it. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Allmusic->AllMusic.
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Author names are usually given as Last, First.
- Guideline? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Unknown, but I guess there's a reason that {{cite web}} has first= and last= fields... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:27, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - We also just have 'author=' it isn't necessary and makes it much easier to work more swiftly. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - We do, it's just not as professional-looking. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        It just makes it way more easier copy paste AdabowtheSecond (talk) 00:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Check refs aren't bare URLs e.g. ref 26.
- Fixed AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:00, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all the pointers The Rambling Man, I'm kind of busy in real life unexpectantly so bare with me, couldn't fix all your points at this time AdabowtheSecond (talk) 12:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Et 3 rnal 14:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks AdabowtheSecond (talk) 00:44, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

LWWY is gold in New Zealand. Biagio2103 (talk) 02:57, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 22:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"It topped the charts in sixteen countries,[4] and saw One Direction inducted into the Guinness World Records,[5] by debuting at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart, making them the first British group in US chart history to debut at number one with their first album." this sentence is hard to follow and I had to read it several times before I understood what was trying to be said. Its too convoluted and needs trimming down. I would change to "It topped the charts in sixteen countries and was the first time an album by a British group had debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart. They were inducted into the Guinness World Records as a result.
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Music videos table does not comply with MOS:DTT. Title needs to be the first column and you need to add col and row scopes like the other tables
- Have I fixed this correctly? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You have NapHit (talk) 22:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have a better reference than The Sun for ref 1, I'm not comfortable with some of our best work, being referenced with this
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
ref 47 the hyphen should be an en dash
- Done AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NapHit (talk) 13:53, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose— a bunch of singles that will be released including an album makes this candidate unstable. Till 00:51, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Up for the challenge! AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - "It is not the subject of ongoing edit wars and its content does not change significantly from day to day." Updating chart positions and adding new singles does not qualify as significant day to day changes. Zac (talk · contribs) 16:27, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - I concur, it is currently stable, just because a new album and singles are being released does not mean it will be become unstable. NapHit (talk) 22:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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