Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Liverpool F.C. league record by opponent/archive1

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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:35, 14 March 2012 [1].

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Liverpool F.C. league record by opponent

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• Featured list candidates/Liverpool F.C. league record by opponent/archive1

Nominator(s): NapHit (talk) 12:09, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe the list meets the criteria. The list takes its format from luton Town F.C. league record by opponent, granted that list was promoted nearly three years ago, so guidelines might have changed, cheers NapHit (talk) 12:09, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:12, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments Premier League repeated in the first sentence. I would say "association football" because it clarifies it for non-experts. Could make that lead image a bit larger, up to 300px if I recall correctly. "disagreement between " twice in consecutive sentences is repetitive. "which they won" in which they were champions? Not great alternative, not keen on current wording. Premier League linked a third time...! "of which were draws" I would say "of which were drawn". " Liverpool has lost more matches against Arsenal than any other club" (and Man Utd!). Actually, adding up the Arsenal defeats in the table, it comes to 60, one fewer than the 61 against Man Utd... Check Southport Win %. Any abandoned matches in Liverpool's league history? Correct as of... probably worth placing the last match that the list was updated for (just in case...) The Rambling Man (talk) 11:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC) Thanks for the comments I've addressed them all, regarding the abandoned matches, I've gone through my books and i can't find any, there are the three games from the abandoned 1939–40 season but Statto does not include these anyway, so I've added a note in the key clarifying that these matches are not counted. NapHit (talk) 12:42, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Eddie6705 (talk) 16:41, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments Merseyside should be linked. "The dispute over rent resulted in Everton moving to Goodison Park from Anfield, which left Houlding with an empty stadium. Thus, he founded Liverpool to play in the empty stadium" - no need for the second mention of empty. "The team that Liverpool has met most in league competition is Everton, against whom Liverpool have contested 185 league matches" - replace the second Liverpool with 'they'. "the club has them beaten" - should be "the club has beaten them". Also at the end of that sentence there is no need to mention League again. "Lancashire League, (from 1892 to 1893)" - would move the comma to after the brackets. Eddie6705 (talk) 16:15, 19 February 2012 (UTC) Thanks for the comments Eddie, I've addressed them all, cheers. NapHit (talk) 16:27, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

• Support. Eddie6705 (talk) 16:45, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Quick comments –

• The semi-colon after "against whom they have contested 185 league matches" should be a regular old comma instead.
• In the post-table footnote, check the last year in the title of the Pead book. I think it may be off by a century. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:27, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments Giants, I've addressed both of them. NapHit (talk) 11:23, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Resolved comments from HonorTheKing (talk) 16:29, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments from someone with similar list - You forgot to put the double dagger in few of the defunct teams, and in the lead, you should change "to the Football League" --> "to The Football League Few of the teams are redirects due to them being A.F.C. (Swansea City, Oldham Athletic, Loughborough Town, Bradford City).   – HonorTheKing (talk) 14:13, 22 February 2012 (UTC) Thanks for the comments, I've addressed them all. NapHit (talk) 19:50, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

• Quick drive-by comment - "The records include the results of matches played in the Lancashire League (from 1892 to 1893), The Football League (from 1893 to 1992, and then again from 1920 to 2009) and the Premier League (from 1992 to the present day)" has an error in it........ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Ta Chris, can't believe I didn't spot that, fixed it. NapHit (talk) 19:50, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Struway2 (talk) 10:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Drive-by comments Think you might want to lose the first Premier League from the opening sentence (and then wikilink the remaining one) * Would be helpful from an accessibility angle if you added informative alt text to the {{dagger}} and {{double-dagger}} symbols, e.g. something like {{double-dagger|alt=defunct}} hope this helps, Struway2 (talk) 13:42, 2 March 2012 (UTC) Thought I'd put here I'd done these, apparently not. Anyway they are done. NapHit (talk) 22:23, 6 March 2012 (UTC) Still think you should lose the Premier League from the opening clause. Most of that clause, "Liverpool Football Club is an English Premier League association football club based in Liverpool", is defining LFC, but LFC isn't by definition a Premier League club. "Liverpool Football Club is an English association football club based in Liverpool, Merseyside, which competes in the Premier League, the top tier of English football, for the 2011–12 season" would work better. Or maybe "whose first team have competed in the top tier of English football since 1962" or whenever it was and then link Premier League when it first appears. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC) Sorry didn't notice the premier league there have removed it now. NapHit (talk) 23:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC) Comments. The prose could do with a bit of a copyedit. You've got stuff like "they has beaten" and "have beat", and Liverpool taking both singular and plural verbs in the same sentence,, as in "The team that Liverpool has met most in league competition is Everton, against whom they have contested 185 league matches". Your second para says you're listing LFC's record against each club faced in "nationally contested leagues". The Lancashire League doesn't quite fit that definition. Key. Maybe link the abandoned 1939/40 season This isn't an actionable comment, but perhaps the need for varied prose doesn't apply to key definitions. Might be clearer if the definitions for your first and last columns were phrased the same as each other Loughborough should be marked as defunct, in which case, it should be called Loughborough and not Loughborough Town. Are you sure Nelson is defunct? Don't think Liverpool ever played Southampton in the league when they were Southampton St Mary's, or Leyton Orient when they were Orient. Think Manchester City were still Ardwick in 1893/94. I know no-one ever bothers, but if the stats go up to a specific date, then the accessdate for their online source should be consistent with that date. hope some of this helps, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC) Thanks of the comments Struway, I have addressed them all, hopefully the prose is an improvement. NapHit (talk) 12:45, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

• Support - I belive it meets the cretiria, also nice to see many clubs with the league record articles now been created (Malmo, ManUtd and Liverpool).
    – HonorTheKing (talk) 09:23, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

• Support – Looks good; well done NapHit. As an aside, I have to say it's quite nice to see that my humble list of Luton results from that long ago has actually turned out to be quite useful for the Wikipedia project as a whole, having inspired this and the other lists mentioned by Honor above. —Cliftonian (talk) 00:09, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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