Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Lady Gaga/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by SchroCat talk 20:53, 29 October 2015 [1].

List of songs recorded by Lady Gaga edit

Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Lady Gaga/archive1

Nominator(s): Frankie _talk 20:00, 3 October 2015 (UTC), Calvin999, GagaNutella, IndianBio, SNUGGUMS[reply]

We've been working on the list for a while. However, we never came up with the conclusion as to who should be the one to nominate it. Anyway, the list is pretty comprehensive, listing down all of her notable songs. Constructive criticism, in any form and from anyone, will be appreciated. Hoping for the best. -- Frankie _talk 20:00, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Birdienest81 (talk) 18:36, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

;Comments by Birdienest81

Since the column is labeled albums, link Gnomeo and Juliet to its actual soundtrack album article page.

Fixed Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:05, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little unsure Life and Style being a reliable source given its reputation as a celebrity gossip magazine (for the record, I would be okay if it was People). Her are several articles that should be enough to replace the article (one from Los Angeles Times about Bangladesh which credits him as one of the writers, one from Entertainment Weekly that mentions Beyoncé and Sean Garrett as co-writers, and another one from Entertainment Weekly that mentions the song as a Beyonce-Lady Gaga duet. Use ALL three to ensure all four writers get credit.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 05:35, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced, and I agree that "Life and Style" is dubious Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Birdienest81 for your comments. All done now. Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I have no more reservations preventing me from supporting this list. Well done.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 18:39, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Birdienest81: thank you so much for your support! GagaNutella^talk 18:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think the list looks great and the prose is very well-written. The only issue that I have is one dead url. Erick (talk) 02:55, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Magiciandude. Turns out it is a working link and that there was a typo at the end of the URL. Fixed now. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:08, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Great job guys! Erick (talk) 03:53, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:54, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from WikiRedactor

My editing has been very limited this year, please forgive my critique for being sub-par!

Is there anything we can do about the one green weblink?

Replaced Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you could mention a song a bit more famous than "Speechless" to represent The Fame Monster in the introduction, either replacing it altogether or adding a second song to that sentence.

Added "Alejandro" and "Bad Romance" Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Same thing with Born This Way; I like the mention of the Spanish and German lyrics so I would leave that bit as-is, but maybe mention the title track or "Judas" so the unfamiliar have a better frame of reference.

Added title track Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would personally find it interesting if you mentioned the couple soundtracks that Gaga appears in in a paragraph in the introduction, just to break it up a little bit from talking mostly about her actual albums. Who knows, it might be a fun fact worth mentioning that Heidi Montag recorded a version of "Fashion" before/after Gaga (not sure which came first!) and that she and Tony Bennett collaborated way before Cheek to Cheek became a thing.

Added "Til It Happens to You" and "Fashion" Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's just me being picky, but could we maybe change the color keys in the tables? I'm a fan of "#BFFFC0" for the singles, maybe a more pastel yellow for the promotional singles, and maybe use the purple for songs that are written by Gaga alone? I'm just not a huge fan of the current color choices, but that could just be being nitpick.

Not sure what to use for "a more pastel yellow", but changed the other colors Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Albums titles should only be linked once in the tables, keep the first mention of each release wikilinked and remove the rest.

WikiRedactor (talk) 02:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unlinked lots Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I linked again per WP:OLINK, since this is a sortable table. GagaNutella^talk 19:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your review was most definitely not sub-par, WikiRedactor! All addressed. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delayed response! I am happy with the changes, and am confident in giving my support for the nomination. Good work! WikiRedactor (talk) 00:58, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Thank you, WikiRedactor!

Thank you for supporting :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:14, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from — Cirt (talk) 04:18, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment: Quite high quality, very well done, thank you very much to all who worked on this quality improvement project. One recommendation: please add in-line citations to back up the unsourced factual assertions in the Notes sect. After that, should be all set. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 05:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you are referring to the picture captions talking about the work other artists have done with her, Cirt, those are based on songwriting credits referenced in the section for credited writers. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the confusion, I meant the factual assertions in this sect List_of_songs_recorded_by_Lady_Gaga#Notes - would strengthen the page's quality to have in-line citations after each note. — Cirt (talk) 01:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cirt: Hi, I'm sorry but I still didn't undertand what you mean lol can you explain again? GagaNutella^talk 02:18, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The footnotes themselves could have in-line citations after each footnote to back up the factual claims made in each one. — Cirt (talk) 02:29, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@GagaNutella:I've added cite needed tags, you can see them shown in this version of the list page here -- now yes, you could say that info is implicitly sourced to album notes, etc, but it would be better if it were explicitly cited with WP CIT templates with an in-line citation at the end of each note. Using WP:CIT templates to cite those notes, would make it much easier for future editors and readers to check where that information came from -- and will make the page much more durable over the long-run, and less likely to ever be de-listed. Good luck, — Cirt (talk) 03:15, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cirt: I'm editing right now. Hold on. GagaNutella^talk 03:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cirt: Done. Is that what you meant? GagaNutella^talk 03:29, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, looks much better. I see you have in-line citation to back up captions in some images, but not others, if you added cites to those, too, even if it's cited to the album notes thingy, that would make it much much better. — Cirt (talk) 03:45, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cirt: Not sure if adding references in the images is necessary. What about if I delete Diane's ref and just leave RedOne's because in this case is necessary to support the statement about the number one. Sounds good? GagaNutella^talk 03:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I guess like the lede intro sect, if literally all the info in the captions is already sourced and cited in the body text of the list, then that would be okay. But yeah, adding cites can only help more. — Cirt (talk) 04:01, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cirt: I just said that because for example: RedOne and DJWS. I would need to add many sources, at least 3, to support they are the producers of many of Gaga's songs. I think it's "over citing" lol but the note thing I totally agree with you and it looks much better now. Thank you for your especific review. GagaNutella^talk 04:09, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Thanks very much for GagaNutella for being so polite and responsive to my comments, above. — Cirt (talk) 04:18, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank YOU Cirt for your support. It means a lot to all of us. I'm very grateful. Bye. GagaNutella^talk 04:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're most welcome, GagaNutella, thank you for your Quality improvement efforts to Wikipedia, and doing so while comporting yourself so politely. You're a rare find. :) — Cirt (talk) 04:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We learn from our own mistakes, Cirt. Again, thank you. GagaNutella^talk 04:29, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're definitely correct. — Cirt (talk) 04:30, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated, Cirt. Thank you for supporting! Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:44, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Azealia911 _talk 13:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with WikiRedactor, per WP:OLINK, tables are an exception when it comes to things being linked more than once. Depending on how you organize the table, you get a different occurrence of an album name first, EG: Sorting the tables by song means the first occurrence of Artpop is "Applause", however if we sort the table by other performer(s), "Do What U Want" occurs first, and is unlinked.

Done. I agree with you, and we've already talked about it in this FLC. GagaNutella^talk 19:19, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really confused as to why there are notes that describe what language Gaga recorded parts of songs in, what is the significance? It's not as if the article is titled "List of songs recorded in English by Lady Gaga"

I really have nothing against it. Actually, I think it gives the reader a full perspective of the song. So for now, I'm gonna pass and see what the other contributors have to say. In my opinion we should keep it. GagaNutella^talk 23:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gaga sings most in fact all of her songs in English. However, a handful of them have included some lyrics of foreign languages so I think it's important to know. -- Frankie _talk 07:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

{{Abbr|Ref.|Reference}} → {{Abbr|Ref(s).|Reference(s)}}

Done GagaNutella^talk 19:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What is the album for "World Family Tree" meant to mean? It currently is presented as "' (bonus CD audio book)"

Done GagaNutella^talk 19:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The reference for "Chillin'" states it was published in 2013, yet the song and the album it originates from both dropped in 2009.

Done GagaNutella^talk 19:47, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All iTunes links are unreliable for "List of songs" articles, they don't tell us who wrote the songs, so that means references for "Big Girl Now", "Fashion", "Winter Wonderland" need changing.

Done. All sources replaced. GagaNutella^talk 23:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Video Phone" rolls three references into one, whereas "Hello, Hello" marks out three single references, present both the same.

Done GagaNutella^talk 19:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Add a <br> in between the two refs for "3-Way (The Golden Rule)".

Done GagaNutella^talk 19:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All I spotted so far. Azealia911 _talk 09:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Azealia911: Thank you for your review. I think it's all done now. GagaNutella^talk 23:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: any comments over at my FLC would also be greatly appreciated. Azealia911 _talk 13:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Azealia911: Thanks for supporting. I confess I'm not very good with discographies, but I might give a look. By the way, I love her, this month I attended to Perry's concert and she was the opening act, she is really great!!! GagaNutella^talk 13:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks indeed. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. – SchroCat (talk) 20:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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