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List of plant genus names (L–P) edit

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Nominator(s): - Dank (push to talk) 20:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go, I think. This list (the first nomination in a 4-part list) follows the advice I got and much of the format in my previous two FLs, List of descriptive plant epithets (A–H) and List of descriptive plant epithets (I–Z). Johnboddie helped as usual, especially with images, and PresN did excellent work on the third and fourth columns. As always, all comments are welcome. Enjoy! - Dank (push to talk) 20:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - Pass edit

  • Two non ref related things:
  • Whats the point of the note for "Latin"? – the column is already wide so can't the full word just be put there? – actually the L is defined in the key so this doesn't seem needed at all
  • At the moment when sorting the C and G columns, they display the rows which do not have C and Gs first, which seems less than ideal. Would it be possible to change this?
    • I don't follow ... change it to what, and why? Formatting matters aren't important to me, but since two of my lists have passed FLC so far with this format, I'd probably have to get an okay from the previous reviewers before making a change. - Dank (push to talk) 13:49, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • If you click the sort bottom on the C or G columns, it displays nothing, and displays the C/Gs later (try it and you'll see what I mean). The easiest solution is to have a "|data-sort-value="ZZZZ"| " for the empty columns – surely that would be ideal? Aza24 (talk) 04:36, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • If I understand what you're saying, clicking twice on the sort button gives you exactly the sort order you're looking for, and exactly the sort order that's standard in the MediaWiki software, so it's what people are expecting ... they're likely to be used to clicking twice if they want the blanks or other lowest-ranking characters to move to the bottom. So why not click the button twice? - Dank (push to talk) 12:14, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your publishing locations are inconsistent, New York, NY (no "US") vs Portland, OR, US – standardize to one or the other (issue present in further reading as well)
    • I can't standardize on "Portland, OR" because many people outside the US would have no idea what "OR" means. I can add "US" to New York, NY if there's some rule that says I have to. - Dank (push to talk) I looked it up ... in every recent FAC I checked, "New York, NY" or similar was preferred over "New York, NY, US". I'm not saying this is an important issue ... it isn't, and the outcome wouldn't bother me either way ... I just want to get it right to avoid trouble down the road. (And I'm running this question by Nikkimaria just to make sure.) - Dank (push to talk) 20:46, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I asked Nikki ... it looks like I won't catch any flak if I consistently leave the country out ... If that works for you, I'll make the change in all my lists. - Dank (push to talk) 21:13, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Sure, that sounds like a reasonable solution. Aza24 (talk) 04:36, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • rather than saying "Hardcover edition published in 2000." you may want to use "|orig-year=2000" – perhaps for the 3rd further reading as well
  • Reliability is great of course and formatting looks good otherwise. Aza24 (talk) 05:57, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Issues resolved, pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 04:36, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alexandra

  • Johann Gottfried Olearius (1635–1711) is linked, but no such article exists, and there is no explanation on this page as to who he is.
    • I added an {{ill}} link, since some reviewers prefer those ... if you'd rather that I write out something in English, that would be fine too. - Dank (push to talk)
  • Valeriana phu also links to a non-existent article without context for what it means
    • Linked to the genus article (which is how these lists handle non-existent species pages in general). - Dank (push to talk)
  • Minor thing, but love (probably for the attractive flowers) - yeah, they're pretty, but slight rewording may be needed to not say that they are so objectively in WP's voice
  • Looks good otherwise. Please ping me when you have addressed the above and I will be back asap!--AlexandraIDV 06:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • All good catches, thanks kindly. - Dank (push to talk) 13:29, 16 December 2020 (UTC) @Alexandra IDV:. - Dank (push to talk) 13:35, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you! I did not get a notification from the @, but happened to see this while looking through the current FLCs again. While I think I would prefer to also see a brief description on this list of who Olearius is, I'm not going to hold up my review because of it - the interwiki solution works, too.--AlexandraIDV 05:44, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support--AlexandraIDV 05:44, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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